I am S p a r t a c u s

I'd be interested in seeing if MN have any suggested terms to describe trans people without forcing people to describe them as the sex they are not.

I am Spartacus

Always Spartacus.
Such a shame I seem unable to convince rl people, still i Spartacus on.

Biology just IS biology. You can't erase it with badly created internet memes, you can't erase it with internet bully, and you can't erase it by spending your teenage years drawing little moustaches and smiley face on all the pictures of sperm in your biology textbook (or was that just my misspent youth?)

I've also been raped, sexually harassed, beaten up in a violent relationship, discriminated against in the workplace and suffered birth injuries... those bits of female lived experience no one seems particularly keen to appropriate for some strange reason.

I am most definitely SPARTACUS.

I'm just so tired of this. And so disappointed. I am Spartacus.

I'm still Soartacus, but - @MNHQ nota bene - not the kind that will jump through whatever hoops you set and however you move them. This is the first time I've logged in for weeks; I've kept looking back for the "new moderation policy" announcement. Now that we have it, doubt I'm going to be helping your figures much more. There are other ways to spend time and other places to talk. And at the end of the day, humans still won't be able to change sex, and women will still be important.

Oh FFS. I am a woman, not a well man

I am a well man. I am not Spartacus.

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Yes. Second Spartacus of the day.

As I'm sure you're realising, it's all going swimmingly!

I am Spartacus.

Adorable you!

Backatcha!

Always Spartacus, because reality doesn't change just because not everyone likes it.

What's happened now? Deleted thread? This one looks like swiss cheese.

I am a woman.

I was a girl.

I am an adult human female.

Something a man can never be.

I am a woman.

People refer to me has her and she.

Sometimes said with deep contempt and misogyny.
I have been attacked, kidnapped, manhandled, drugged.... all by men who wanted to abuse my body.... my female body.

I am a woman.

Something a male will never be.

I have a vagina and uterus.

I menstruate and have given birth.

I am a mother.

Something a male will never be.

I have been insulted, assaulted, belittled, dismissed, held back, intimidated, stereotyped, mocked, shamed, humiliated because I am a woman.

Something a male can never be.

I feel insulted, appropriated, offended, anxious, tense, depressed, hurt and under siege, when a male claims to be a woman or anyone says a male can be female.

It is not civil or respectful to treat me this way.

I am a woman.

I am NOT transphobic.

I am Spartacus.

*I am Spartacus. A person cannot change their sex.

The only thing that comforts me about all this in that everyone I talk to IRL about this feels the same way as I do.

Keep talking, it's important people hear our voices.*

I am Spartacus.

I am female.

I was a girl, and grew into a woman.

No male can ever experience that.

I am Spartacus, and I will not tell lies

OK found it now

For anyone else, incase they are as clueless as me

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/site_stuff/3276551-Mumsnet-moderation-of-trans-rights-and-gender-critical-issues

Sex not gender

I am a woman, a mother, grandmother, a daughter.
Because of my biology.

I was abused as a teenager by a man, because of my biology.

I don't hate trans people, live and let live I say. If dressing and presenting in a stereotypical way that differs from your birth sex makes you happy, then go for it.
But respect has to work both ways.

I won't lie. All the makeup, dresses drugs and surgery in the world cannot change xy into xx, because of biology.

I am still Spartacus.

I am Spartacus. A person cannot change their sex.

The only thing that comforts me about all this in that everyone I talk to IRL about this feels the same way as I do.

Keep talking, it's important people hear our voices.

Indefatigable, me.
Adorable you!

Where is that mumsnet post please? So I can read the whole thing plus context if possible.

That said, it’s clear that most trans people find the use of pronouns or names that they or others have consciously rejected, to be hurtful and would therefore struggle to engage in a discussion with those who insist on using them.

More to the point they, transgender advocates, view any woman who disagrees with them in any way to be an act of rejection and deeply hurtful. How you gonna babysit that MN?

Fairenuff

Ah that explanation seems fair enough. Especially with 'cis' and 'terf' being effectively banned too. Having said that, one of the things I liked most about this forum is how..unmoderated it is. You can speak your mind here more than anywhere I have ever posted before. Yes some moderation happened, but its never ever been as much as there appears to be since transactivists turned their eye here. It kind of seems like capitulating to bullies, however I do think it is fair that if TIM is banned, cis and terf are too.

I don't get what those who refuse to use the term transwoman will use now though. Maybe transgender male person? I am fine using transwoman myself, but I know some people are against it for their own reasons.