I just peak-trans'd again!

But you were happy to use specific types of women and question their womanhood to try to prove your point? Women who may already face discrimination and judgement were considered fair game to you.

"Amazingly, it seems the answer is yes."

And you will see it is a paraphilia and therefore totally different to the issue of gender identity

trans bashing

Fuck me, I've heard some offensive appropriation in my time from the TRA faction, but equating a woman saying 'transwomen aren't women' with beating up gay people is bloody low on the scale daimbars.

Picasso I've watched Transparent - Moira isn't AGP? Do you mean a different character?

I'm not saying perverts with AGP who actually do illegal things are not a threat. But seeing as the only documented case in the UK in the last 13 years is Mark Lazarus I'm not losing too much sleep.

"Be careful talking about childbirth or gibberty will be along to suggest that infertile or child free women are no more woman than men too."

The opposite. I am the one saying there is no neat biological definition of woman

*"The fact that many transwomen do not understand or hear womens' voices makes it clear to me that they do not experience society as we do."

So you believe that the worth of a woman depends entirely on how well her body conforms to your personal ideal for a woman?*

See! This is why YOU are personally responsible* for peak transing me! It's like you are reading an entirely different thread about an entirely different subject. Talking to you reminds me of that game where you draw a head on a bit of paper and then fold it over and someone else draws the body and folds it and hands it back.

*Partially, anyway,

Oldcrone
The DSM.
Why is that amazing? It's a well known condition, but trans absolutely hate the classification and are grooming the government via Stonewall to de classify it. That's why we have to have self ID so all fetishists can be get legal female documents.

Do you think I am making this up as I go along?

Gib really is fielding a full complement of offensive canards, I must say.

Be careful talking about childbirth or gibberty will be along to suggest that infertile or child free women are no more woman than men too.

Honestly? Really? You really don't think the human race is divided into male and female? You really believe that biological sex is some kind of spectrum?

I don't think there's much a discussion between rational people can do for you then tbh.

Someone famous I follow on Instagram posted ‘some men have vaginas, get over it’ yesterday.
Err no they really don’t mate. Unfollow.

Yy to how things were in the 90s when everyone wore eyeliner, nail varnish and big boots and snogged each other. When Eddie Izzard said "they're not women's clothes, they're my clothes" before he became a tosser.

I don't understand why so many people are going along with all this feelz stuff. "I feel like a woman, therefore I'm a woman." I don't feel like a woman, I feel like me. I know I'm a woman because when I was born the midwife saw my vagina and said "It's a girl!" I know I'm a woman because I developed breasts and started my periods. I know I'm a woman because I grew a baby in my womb and pushed it out of my vagina.

I think it is you who believes that gibberty since you were happy to throw certain groups of women into the mix as reasons why men should be accepted as women. Lesbians and butch women were fair game to you. I've seen similar said about disabled and black women more than once, their womanhood questioned in such an offensive way.

I agree, there seems to be no limit to the amount of peaking that can happen.

I have heard similar cases of women being thrown out off Facebook feminist groups for stating facts and asking questions, without the intention to upset people.

Gib intersex is a (physical) medical condition.

Stop using people with intersex as a rhetorical human shield for a self ID campaign.

@Iamawoman you claimed those with XY are men. I have presented you with some examples. Are they male or female?

Since when has feminism only been about trans bashing and peak transing.

It's always been about women and men are not women.

The bottom line is that people watch these conversations and see who shuts threads down, who antagonizes women, and, more importantly, who produces the best and most logical arguments.

"The fact that many transwomen do not understand or hear womens' voices makes it clear to me that they do not experience society as we do."

So you believe that the worth of a woman depends entirely on how well her body conforms to your personal ideal for a woman?

Dont these individuals have a biological basis to their condition? Therefore a bit more than a feeling, a sexual fetish, denial of their sexuality, cooler than being a lesbian etc. A male who has been socialised as male, who needs to undergo radical surgery, take hormones for life to try and be woman , who has no natural primary or secondary sexual characteristics of a female is a male.

Watch

"I was under the impression that groups representing intersex people had repeatedly asked not to be brought into the trans debate. Why are you dragging various groups into your argument to validate your delusion than men can become women?"

But the debate is the gender critical assertion on this thread that XX=female and XY=male. So, once again, are the people on that page male or female?

Daim, so pretending these men don't exist is your approach? So in future we can all read your posts in that context, you have your fingers in your ears and are going lalala?

What Transparent on Amazon Prime, its all about an autogyneaphile and what he does to his family.

GibbertyFlibbert not envy, no.
It seems to me that if transwomen were sympathetic with, and reallyunderstood the discrimination society places upon women, they wouldn't be so adamant that everyone needs to believe they actually are of the female sex. They would understand why women are so determined to protect female identity, spaces, rights & voices.
The fact that many transwomen do not understand or hear womens' voices makes it clear to me that they do not experience society as we do.

No organisation is suggesting men with AGP are under the trans umbrella.

Crossdressers are under the trans umbrella. Why do men crossdress?

Just feel sorry for you really.

Are we reading the same thread?