Why are women athletes NOT objecting to the takeover of their sport?

remember reading XXCharleyUchea, a young black lesbian, tweeting on this point. She was funny as fuck before they banned her. I wonder where she is now?

Loved her. Fuckers.

I don't think Judi is the type. That would be so great if Andy Murray did.

Wimbledon is looming. Would love Judy Murray to say something. Andy has sometimes shown a feminist leaning. McEnroe gets it but this was coming from completely the wrong angle:
www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/jun/26/serena-williams-would-be-700-in-the-world-on-mens-tour-says-mcenroe

The retired ones usually still work within sport, consultants, coaches, lecturers etc.

There will be a push back, but it will be slow in the coming and maybe not quite what we would like! There is so much gender research being pushed by the larger research funding organisations that many people who want to speak up may well be prevented from doing so because they or their employer would lose funding.

It will take a re-think and a "So what if they losing funding into that??!!?" style rebellion. But it should come....

I am far from being an athlete, but I think I will write to Tracey Crouch, Minister for Sport and Civil Society, about this. I don't suppose it will do any good, but it might alert politicians that there could be votes at stake. We could also write to athletic and other sporting authorities and their sponsors if we are concerned that things here shouldn't progress to the situation that female athletes find themselves in in Connecticut.

In terms of the Connecticut state races currently in the news the female athletes were banned from protesting, withdrawing or in any way exercising their right to not be forced to compete against males. Membership of their athletics federation which is a requirement to compete was contingent on them toeing the TRA line.

They’re afraid.

Exactly she has retired and has nothing to lose. Lynsey Sharp probably lost a load of sponsorship and media opportunities by speaking out and it seemed to have no impact on what happened anyway

Sonia O'Sullivan is 48. She is a FORMER athlete.

That's true Bonnie but there's still be plenty left go work with. Also, as we have seen, plenty of white trans women and those supporting them have absolutely no problem with trying to steal a bit of non-white bed for them. See Paris Lees definition of white feminism, which she makes clear doesn't include her despite being white and thinking she's a feminist. The subtext is to try and absolve themselves of any white privilege of course, beyond a bit of lip service. Racist as shit.

I remember reading XXCharleyUchea, a young black lesbian, tweeting on this point. She was funny as fuck before they banned her. I wonder where she is now?

Fear rules all aspects of women's lives in a hostile society.

Fear.

It’s a total triple whammy.
1 - accusations of bigotry and transphobia
2 - societal expectations of women to be nice
3 - culture of good sportsmanship and fear of being labelled a poor loser

If a white intersex athlete emerged to make a mockery of competition in the same way we have seen in women’s middle-distance running, the athlete’s supporters would not be able to close down debate by playing the race card, as is the case at the moment.

Sonia O’Sullivan, an Irish Olympic medal winner, has. In somewhat oblique terms, but her overall position is clear. V brave of her I thought. www.irishtimes.com/sport/sonia-o-sullivan-intersex-athletes-and-the-problem-of-testosterone-1.2677419

Have you not seen what happened to the ones who complained, or even showed evident disapproval of the intersex middle distance athletes? There were accusations of sour grapes, bigotry, racism.

I wonder what spectators will think when they go to view womens' sport and several if not most competitors are men identifying as women?

I think only when it gets to that point, will there be protests. As I don't think the world is ready for this at all. Sadly, along the way women will ready have lost their careers

For those men identifying as women who have entered women's events and unfairly won - I wondered what has happened in terms of sponsorship and endorsements? Are they 'up there's in terms of this? It doesn't seem to me that they are. It's hypocrisy.

If they're deemed women hence allowed to enter women's competitions, let's see them hailed as great female athletes in glossy magazine and on billboards, advertisements etc

All of it is hiding in plain sight. I think when it all comes to light they'll be blown out of the water.

Or perhaps when fathers are encouraging their DD in chosen sport only to find she will be at an unfair disadvantage due to competing against boys/men identifying as girls/women. Ambitions killed by cheats before they've even got off the ground.

Most people I know aren't even aware of this and related issues. The few that are, feel it won't impact them so they don't care.

ecause even in numbers they'll be labelled transphobic and be dropped from their sponsorships, dropped from invitation events and so on. They won't be able to afford to continue in the sport and that will be that.

THIS

Lynsey Sharp, a Scottish middle-distance runner, publicly criticised the rules about intersex hyperandrogenic athletes running in women’s races.

She was criticising the rules, not her opponents, but of course the media personalised the issue.

www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/aug/21/lynsey-sharp-caster-semenya-rio-2016-olympics

Same reason medics have an anonymous gender critical website, VAWG support workers don't speak out, social workers, teachers, academics and many journalists.

Bullying.

I remember this very well. I suspect there are few female athletes who do not know that what sportswomanship requires of them is very different from what sportsmanship requires of males.
4thwavenow.com/2018/04/15/surly-shirley-and-the-assault-on-womens-sport-then-and-now/

.... and women like to be 'nice'

It has also been hammered home for years how much harder transpeople have it than women

I think young people are being gaslighted; they lack the confidence of older women (possibly); they have a lot to lose; and frankly I guess they are keeping their heads down and working on their sport.

It's utterly shitty for them. They need us to stand beside them

Procrastinator

I agree. Straggering irony.

But when TIMs are Women's Officers, when Transwomen are winning awards for women, and are speaking about Women Making History for Amnesty International (and on a less serious note are being put into the Big Brother House in a year that's specifically marketed as a celebration of women winning the vote), it's just one in a long line of ironies