Daily Mail, Momentum, Diane Abbott and Action for Trans Health

THIS Article about Labour abandoning women

Oh that's interesting. She's my MP. I wrote to her a few months ago, linking James Kirkup's article about the problem with Labour for women. No reply.

I'm no fan of ATH but isn't this just the Daily Mail having a go at Diane Abbott?

I'm no fan of the Daily Mail. I am even less of a fan of the Labour party being taken over by Momentum.

The trans issue here for me is secondary, as I suspect it is for the Mail. It is just more evidence of Momentum extremism. I'm happy for the Mail to keep pointing out Labour is being run by Momentum if it has the effect of Labour in its current form remaining unelectable.

And interesting that her response was to deny she knew rather than try to defend ATH.

Yep.

And interesting that her response was to deny she knew rather than try to defend ATH.
It's almost as if the reasonable people are managing to get hold of the conversation a bit.

Of course he does!

Thanks for posting.

Madigan also spoke at the meeting. Does LM support the aims of ATH ?

Diane Abbott is shockingly naive after 30+ years in parliament. Does she have advisors who steer her towards this stuff and, if so, it's high time she pondered their motivation.

I'm no fan of ATH but isn't this just the Daily Mail having a go at Diane Abbott?

I expect so. But then, Diane should know better than to gift them such an own goal by now. And if Diane wants to go and talk at meetings raising money for ATH, she can fuck right off to the far side of fuck. Sorry, Diane.

dr I'm no fan of the DM but if mainstream attention is being drawn to the excesses of transactivism then perhaps it is necessary collateral damage..? I imagine that DA is fairly teflon to attacks from the Mail by now and certainly has few supporters to lose in the readership

I'm no fan of ATH but isn't this just the Daily Mail having a go at Diane Abbott?

Its cross party:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/2993425-Maria-Miller-interviewed-by-Janice-Turner-full-text

blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/05/why-are-some-mps-trying-to-shut-down-the-transgender-debate/

(extract)
"The other column that Doughty was so interested in also concerned children. In particular, he was struck by the Times’ headline using the phrase “trans lobby”. This, for reference, was on a column that argued that a number of changes in policy and convention are being made at the urging of groups advocating things that they say would benefit transgender people which, the columnist suggested, were not in the best interests of children. “You will understand why that is a particular concern, given the previous use of “gay lobby”, “Jewish lobby” and all of those sorts of things,” Doughty said. “Do you think the use of the phrase “trans lobby” is an appropriate one?”

As it happens, Dr Carmichael in her lecture said some things that seem relevant here:

“Gender has become amazingly topical and we have to be really careful not to assume that anyone is exploring or questioning their gender is going to want to change their bodies in line with that. The extremes on either side are not helpful. We need to look at the grey areas in between. To do that we need to be able to talk and discuss these issues. All too often stakeholders become lobby groups.”

She did not name any stakeholder. But her words might be relevant to a charity called Mermaids. Mermaids is a charity that describes itself as “a support group for children and young people with gender dysphoria and their families”. Its CEO, Susie Green describes herself as “parent to a daughter who was born male.” Mermaids is a relatively small charity (it had income of £127,000 in the year to March 2017) with a big reach. It has prominent backers and its advice and recommendations have been absorbed and adopted by many public bodies."

Diane Abbott MP laid out the case for the Labour Party being so vociferous in its defence of trans rights, and why we need unity across the labour movement against all forms of reaction.

Diane Abbott is Corbyn's dupe

Re the link between NUS Trans officers & Action for Trans Health :

there are some recent threads:

[www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3259500-Trans-Student-Faces-Expulsion-from-Univeristy-of-Bristol

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3237230-NUS-Conference-breaks-down-after-the-UK-Border-Force-Arrive

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3222263-Slide-show-on-How-to-Deal-with-TERFs

It's very good that ATH, once mainstream enough to have their evidence prioritised as more important than women's testimony, is now seen as extremist.

Important to focus then on Action for Trans health's influence?

I'm sure they will work closely with some of the other TRA organisations?

Probably endorsed?

Rose of Dawn discussed Action for TRans Health in her video 'What does coopting the trans movement look like?'

Worth watching

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3259286-Rose-of-Dawn-discusses-violence-against-women-Action-for-Trans-Health-NUS-officers-and-far-left-ideology

Wasn't Action for Trans health part of the consultation process with Maria Miller?

It is really important that what may be a cross party issue, doesn't get solely focussed on Labour, especially one female MP.

Also which other organisations or public figures endorse / work closely with Action for TRans health?