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Dark and stormies all round! Bluestocking piss up

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QuentinSummers · 08/06/2018 23:05

A friendly place for feminist or general chit chat. Welcome all!

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Theinconstantgardener · 13/06/2018 22:36

Oh Im sorry lighthouse Flowers
I assumed you were referring to todays goings on on here. My good friend feels the same. 2 brothers and 2 sisters who do nothing. She does it all - every day.

RaininSummer · 13/06/2018 22:32

Hi all. Feeling very depressed about all this gender shit. Had a bit if a disagreement over changing rooms with a friend and the word police aka moderation policy is just crap. Had day pass the whisky.

LighthouseSouth · 13/06/2018 22:22

There are strange things afoot while Ive been at work? I can't knit them together? As often happens on this board these days.

Re empathy gene, some of you will hate me for saying this but I can't cope with the elderly parents any more. My sister does nothing because she doesn't care. I want to be like that. My empathy is turning into rage actually. There's definitely such a thing as living too long. They took every damn med there is to delay death and it works. What is the point?! To cause suffering to everyone else till you're 103?

Today I finally confided in a friend and she said "oh don't feel bad, loads of people feel the way you do". Maybe I'll start a support group. Where the fuck is the end anonymous.

I don't even understand why anyone wants to live that long but my generation was not blessed with those house prices and pensions.

End rant. Cue anethestisaton sp? by alcohol.

Weezol · 13/06/2018 22:15

Thank you Waddle. Both are very gratefully recieved. My round I think?

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 13/06/2018 22:06

Signing in

Large glass of white wine and soda please

What the fuck is going on !!!

Its a bloody madhouse

thebewilderness is effing again, people are disappearing!!!

Theinconstantgardener · 13/06/2018 21:59

I want my empathy gene removed
What do you mean lighthouse ?
Large Gin with lime and soda please barkeep. Anyone else? We can either drown our sorrows or celebrate continued defiance.

LighthouseSouth · 13/06/2018 21:16

I want my empathy gene removed.
And a mojito.

BeyondSceptical · 13/06/2018 19:44

WNTT is streaming live now...
www.facebook.com/DRradfem/videos/2157764721109127/

QuentinSummers · 13/06/2018 18:56

I had a quick squizz. Totally baffled as to what is going on. Seems like back to the old days of having to refer to everyone by their name.

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Waddlelikeapenguin · 13/06/2018 18:49

Oh quentin you'd be happier if you didnt.... Gin

Weezol · 13/06/2018 17:56

Please may I have a pint of Yorkshire Tea? I'll be sitting at the little round table in the corner. Don't let the repetitive thudding of my head against the wall disturb you, it'll be reet.

QuentinSummers · 13/06/2018 17:52

Oh what have I missed? Will go have a look

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PermissionToSpeakSir · 13/06/2018 13:55

Hi - Its a bit early in the day - but I could do with a shot. I find the whole banning TIM a bit wierd.... Confused

birdbandit · 13/06/2018 13:42

Can I get a straight bourbon? I am channeling Jessica Jones with my choice of liquor nowadays.

BeyondSceptical · 13/06/2018 12:05

Thank you, folks both :)

Ah life isn't great, but I'll live. Conflict everywhere atm

Waddlelikeapenguin · 13/06/2018 11:08

Hugs for all who need them.
I am sick of seeing the word "folks" but it doesnt seem to be on the banned list....

QuentinSummers · 13/06/2018 09:31

Morning beyond not seen you for ages. Hope all is ok with you generally. Have a big hug. I feel the same at the moment so could do with it!

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BeyondSceptical · 13/06/2018 08:38

Morning all, checking in with a very large coffee. Nice to see (well, not nice but ykwim...) a few people commenting on feeling odd atm, my mh is all over the place atm too - swinging from fine to verging on suicidal and back again at breakneck speed. Wonder if there is something in the air...?

womanformallyknownaswoman · 13/06/2018 08:29

As can be seen by the verdicts of most rape prosecutions, men are protected and their offending and victimisation of women minimised and downplayed. The whole premise of making rape easier to prosecute and then men will have societal condemnation as a consequence is flawed.

Those same people who find men not guilty will also continue to excuse men's abhorrent offending - rape is not reckless - that so offensive to most victims - it's about male violence power and control- it's planned to ensure the target is vulnerable - opinions. about "reckless and bad sex" are not borne out by research nor the specialists' views - how many rape crisis experts / employees have spoken out in support of GG's proposals- their silence is deafening for a reason

QuentinSummers · 13/06/2018 08:17

I think the justice system should do more to protect vulnerable witnesses including rape complainants.
This link suggests some ways that could be done
www.thejournal.ie/rape-trial-evidence-3947001-Apr2018/

But if there was a "reckless penetration" crime then the man would have to prove either he didn't penetrate or that he had consent. It moves the burden to him where at the moment it seems to be the woman has to prove she didn't consent which is all wrong.

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ErrolTheDragon · 13/06/2018 00:33

For it to be 'balance of probability' rather than 'proved beyond reasonable doubt', that has to mean civil rather than criminal law, doesn't it?

www.inbrief.co.uk/legal-system/difference-between-civil-criminal-law/

Not sure how that would work for rape... who would organise and pay for the action, and what could the penalties be?

Terfulike · 13/06/2018 00:24

I feel about GG pretty much what I feel about my ex husband. Still love him, still value the 20 years, yet...we're not such a good fit any more.

ILikeyourHairyHands · 13/06/2018 00:14

Balance of probailty Erol, if a woman says she was raped, the law should believe her.

At the moment that goes against her because rape is seen as so heinous against men, the woman has to prove she was raped.

Flip it, if rape was seen as socially heinous it should be up to men not to rape rather than women to prove they were raped.

ErrolTheDragon · 12/06/2018 23:41

'Make it so they are not dragged through the courts and treated as evidence and their lives and behaviour dissected in such damaging ways.'

I'm missing something here - even if the bar and penalties were lower, how would this be avoided? Even if the 'it's easier to get a conviction for manslaughter than murder' argument is true, there still has to be evidence and in the case of rape, how can this not include the woman herself?

smithsinarazz · 12/06/2018 23:41

People who think for themselves will always talk bollocks from time to time. Sometimes Greer is right, sometimes she's wrong. In this case, she's totally wrong, from what i've heard.
My mum used to have to examine rape victims. She told me that "rape is never a crime of passion. It's always a crime of power." Not just bad sex. Not just fumbling. A man, exerting power over a woman. Always.

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