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Man attacks women for driving car on road

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KateSheppard · 08/06/2018 19:59

nationalpost.com/news/world/an-oregon-man-broke-a-womans-arm-and-knocked-out-her-fiancee-in-a-road-rage-attack-police-say

This woman did what any motorist must do every work day - squeeze through a gap into jammed traffic. For having the temerity to put her car in front of a man's car, this man gave her and her fiancée serious and potentially life changing injuries.

Men have form for this sort of thing. Women driving legally, competently and, most egregiously, freely on public roads seems to inspire primal rage in some men. Here are a couple of illustrations.

www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/news/two-thirds-drivers-have-suffered-road-rage-attack-women-main/

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/26/dashcam-films-moment-road-rage-driver-smashes-into-family-of-fou/

Women driving may be legal in the west, but legal obviously isn't the same as equal and safe for women.

We've still got a long way to go, baby.

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Badgerthebodger · 08/06/2018 21:05

Urgh my ex was like this. The whole time he was driving he would be raging about other drivers, constantly angry at every other person on the road. He never got out of the car but definitely lots of shouting, gesticulating, winding windows down to lean out and shout. Just horrible. One of many reasons why he is an ex.

HmmWellYesNoBut · 08/06/2018 20:55

I have come across some angry men driving over the years and some generous men.

The men that stick out were the ones that made enraged faces and put their finger to their temple and twist their hand, both men made mistakes, both had female passengers who made hand gestures to me, they seemed like very angry people. Confused

KateSheppard · 08/06/2018 20:51

Kyanite Yes! I noticed a couple of years ago that I received significantly more road harassment when I was driving a smaller and more "feminine" car than when I was driving a larger car - especially one usually driven by men. Same motorway, same city, same time of the day...totally different experience.

I also noticed that my chances of being abused on the road increased markedly where the other driver was (1) a man and (2) at a vantage point where they can see that I'm a female driver.

When changing lanes in a large masculine vehicle from a starting position which obscures the fact that I'm female, I rarely (if ever) receive abuse or obstruction.

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SquishySquirmy · 08/06/2018 20:49

Even if those drivers had been in the wrong (which they weren't), it wouldn't excuse a violent reaction.

Here is something I still feel guilty about:

A few years ago, not long after passing my test, I ran into the back of another car (low speed, didn't leave enough of a gap and they stopped suddenly). Completely my fault (and I am still mortified about it).

We both pulled over to the side of the road. Their was a dent on their rear bumper. As I walked towards their car to speak to them I was terrified that it would be a man inside and that he might get abusive or violent. I cannot describe the relief I felt when I saw the driver was a woman, quickly followed by guilt for thinking this way.
Because how shitty is it to feel relief at bumping into a woman? She didn't deserve it any more than a man did.

Maybe my fear was irrational, but I know from experience that men are much more likely to respond in a violent way than women. Not all men, not even most men, but enough to make me wary.

DisturblinglyOrangeScrambleEgg · 08/06/2018 20:47

I am not sure the first incident was because it was a woman, he was an angry, violent man and I am not sure he would discriminate based on sex

That's not this man's experience:

www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a28027/when-i-stopped-cutting-my-hair-i-learned-how-men-treat-women-on-american-roads/

Kyanite · 08/06/2018 20:37

I used to drive my mother's car that had a sun roof and I would have crap from guys, especially if I had honked them...that really slowed down when I had my own car, without a sun roof, and they couldn't easily see that I was a woman.

I actually had an incident against me 2 days ago, from a guy in his 60's (at a guess), he was totally in the wrong but didn't like that I honked him as swerved around his car to miss it when he pulled out when he shouldn't have done at a roundabout. He tailgated, kept honking, and then drew up alongside when waiting at lights to shout at me, never mind that I had 2 children in the back.

Another time I had a child seat in the back, the guy wouldn't have known if I had a young child there, he over took me then kept trying to make me drive into the back of him by suddenly breaking...my crime was pulling out and going at the speed limit (I'm a girl racer in a fast car, I would not have held him up). There were three lanes and he could have chosen another but no, I was a woman to be harassed. White van man in Southampton.

Yes, I definitely get the men v women thing on the road. I always lock my doors and usually have the windows up, relying on air con instead.

KateSheppard · 08/06/2018 20:18

It's probably not a coincidence that the angry, violent men often pick women to take that angry violence out on.

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Atthebottomofthesea · 08/06/2018 20:07

Some people are ducks on the road. I am not sure the first incident was because it was a woman, he was an angry, violent man and I am not sure he would discriminate based on sex.