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Soul man

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blackteasplease · 08/06/2018 10:00

Had this 1980s film been mentioned here re the trans debate?

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soul_Man_(film)

A white boy who takes tanning pills to make himself black and geta scholarship? I remembered it dimly but just looked it up and it seems really apt. He realises all the advantages he's had being white and that he can go back to being white and having that privilege at any time!

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Rufustheyawningreindeer · 08/06/2018 11:06

Oooh crosspost rat

Hope littleone is fully recovered Smile

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 08/06/2018 11:05

Maybe daim is doing that 'expanding' thing

You know

Where you say something and someone else goes 'oh so you are saying....' (or suggesting)

Its fucking irritating

And i know that it happens on both sides of any debate...cheap stunt

RatRolyPoly · 08/06/2018 11:05

I suppose it's a question of interpretation Rufus, but I won't presume to explain daim's interpretation myself Smile

daimbars · 08/06/2018 11:05

The film is about a white man who disingenuously pretends to be black in order to cheat in an exam.

How exactly is that relevant to the trans debate? Unless you are suggesting trans people are all being disingenuous. In which case I have no words.

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 08/06/2018 11:03

i cant see where she is 'suggesting' that ALL transwomen are anything either

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 08/06/2018 11:01

How is this in any way relevant to the trans debate

It is very relevant. Race and gender are both social constructs. Skin colour and sex are biological realities.

People who say they are actually the opposite sex are lauded, white people who identify as black are condemned - why is this?

Additionally men have pretended to be women to for eg get into political office

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.lgbtqnation.com/2018/05/17-men-busted-pretending-trans-women-run-office-mexico/amp/

So how is it not relevant?

RatRolyPoly · 08/06/2018 10:57

I think that's why daim used the word "suggesting", Rufus.

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 08/06/2018 10:56

Can't see where she said 'all transwomen' are anything

daimbars · 08/06/2018 10:54

How is this in any way relevant to the trans debate? Are you seriously suggesting all trans women are disingenuous and 'pretending'? Confused

blackteasplease · 08/06/2018 10:00

Sorry if it turns out that film has been discredited in some way but I can't see why it would from the synopsis!

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