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Transgender man gives birth and wants to be recorded as baby's father

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OrchidInTheSun · 07/06/2018 18:17

FFS

I just heard this on the news. This fucked up person says it's a breach of their human rights not to be recorded as the baby's father.

I'm kind of running out of words to express my feelings about this

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ScreamingValenta · 07/06/2018 18:32

Are you saying that the transman would forfeit the legal protections afforded to mothers by using 'father' on the birth certificate? What are the legal criteria to benefit from, e.g. employment rights afforded during maternity?

AskAuntLydia · 07/06/2018 18:31

I also think that someone who is so caught up in her own drama about her identity and her feelz and her existential being, is probably not going to be very good at putting her child's needs first. She hasn't come to terms with the fact that she is a woman. She's still in deep denial about her own biological reality. She's so far in denial that she is fighting the state to get her delusion validated.

How can someone in that mental state, possibly put her child's needs before her own?

It's disturbing. I hope the state will refuse to record a fiction.

OMFL · 07/06/2018 18:30

Confused.com

Make your bloody mind up u prat.

OrchidInTheSun · 07/06/2018 18:28

Because only women can bear children Screaming and there are a whole host of legal protections that go with that. If anyone can bear children, then we erode a lot of those.

It's also a fucking nonsense. Men can't get pregnant. It's gaslighting this person's poor kid

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AskAuntLydia · 07/06/2018 18:27

It matters because public records should record facts.

If you give birth to a child and you are a mammal, then you are female. In English, the word for a female who gives birth, is mother.

Not father.

UrsulaPandress · 07/06/2018 18:26

Might as well get rid of mother and father if it doesn't mean anything anymore.

Tiddlywinks63 · 07/06/2018 18:24

The world's gone bloody mad ☹️
Poor, poor child.

ScreamingValenta · 07/06/2018 18:23

Why does it matter to you how someone is recorded on their baby's birth certificate? I'm not asking that in a 'goady' tone, I am genuinely curious about what impact you see this having, etc.

OrchidInTheSun · 07/06/2018 18:21

www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/uk/baby-will-not-legally-have-mother-if-transgender-man-wins-legal-fight-36987153.html

It's nothing to do with what's best for the poor baby. The only child in the world to not have a mother but a victory for trans rights. I'm sure the kid will be really thrilled about that.

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loveyouradvice · 07/06/2018 18:18

I hate this ... in these kind of situations the child's rights have to be paramount - no centring men or women but THE BABY .... they are not an accessory but a person with their own rights...