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The Simple Problem with Those Anti-Trans Protesters' Big Stunts

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FoxOnSecurity · 07/06/2018 17:26

This sums it up really about the problem with anti trans stunts.

www.vice.com/amp/en_uk/article/kzknma/the-simple-problem-with-those-anti-trans-protesters-big-stunts

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EmpressOfSpartacus · 08/06/2018 08:12

Is foxy jaaaaanniiisssssssss

I'm getting confused now.

There's the one who wanted advice on where to buy cheap sanitary towels to deal with daily bleeding, the one who keeps trying to explain science to Babelfish & the one who decided to call us all men (even though it wasn't Friday).

Was that all the same poster or different ones?

Bowlofbabelfish · 08/06/2018 08:04

Man Friday are not anti trans protesters

They are protesting to raise awareness of the consequences of self ID, and to retain sex segregated spaces where they are needed.

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 08/06/2018 07:44

the humour is an absolute killer when the whole credibility of your ideology depends on everybody taking it deadly seriously and never questioning any of it

Man Friday you are geniuses and that article has cheered me right up

Pratchet · 08/06/2018 07:16

Are you fox fisher?

Pratchet · 08/06/2018 07:15

I read the Vice piece. They're so rattled.

DJLippy · 08/06/2018 00:34

FYI Vice co-founder Gavin McInnes founded men's right group the Proud Boys. Vice hates women.

Brilliant podcast about the Proud Boys here www.thisamericanlife.org/626/white-haze

boatyardblues · 08/06/2018 00:20

ManFriday are a fine bunch of chaps.

Sterling work chaps! Seconded!

haXXor · 07/06/2018 23:36

I just checked: Fox is listed on Twitter as being (paraphrasing somewhat) an IT security analyst specialising in, amongst other things, social engineering. For those who are not familiar with security concepts, "social engineering" is when you trick, coerce, or persuade people to achieve your desired outcome, rather than attacking hardware or software. People are often the weak point in an organisation and common "people-hardening" techniques include things like teaching people not to respond to phishing emails, to challenge anyone not wearing an ID badge, not to let people tail-gate them through an access-controlled door, that kind of thing.

So Fox actually knows full well what the impact on women's safety will be if we don't feel we can challenge males in the ladies loos, because Fox deals with this stuff for a living.

Ereshkigal · 07/06/2018 23:33

Doubt old Foxy cares though.

Ereshkigal · 07/06/2018 23:32

And yes, so true.

Ereshkigal · 07/06/2018 23:32

That's really interesting haXXor, have bookmarked.

haXXor · 07/06/2018 23:22

@HerFemaleness It's the old ''men will sexually assault you anyway so stop worrying your purty little heads about men identifying as women to get easier access to you''.

If @foxonsecurity is actually in any kind of (physical or IT) security job, they'll understand the Swiss Cheese Model and how removing women's ability to say "excuse me mate, this is the ladies" is removing the first cheese layer a predatory male encounters when entering a female space and hence reducing women's safety.

spontaneousgiventime · 07/06/2018 23:11

The #ManFriday peeps are my her ehm, sher ehm, favourite people right now.

BatShite · 07/06/2018 23:10

Is it possible that a trans woman will attack another woman? Of course it is, just as it's possible that a cis woman could attack another woman."

However, its hugely more likely that a male person will attack a female one, than a female attacking another female. That parts generally left out for some odd reason.

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 07/06/2018 23:07

ManFriday are a fine bunch of chaps.

Jolly Good Show!

Keep it up!

BatShite · 07/06/2018 23:06

The judge who attracted international censure after sentencing the Stanford rapist Brock Turner to six months in jail has been recalled from office after a two-year campaign by local activists. NPR reports that 59 percent of Santa Clara County voters cast their ballots in favor of recalling Superior Court judge Aaron Persky, making him the first California judge to be recalled since 1932.

Now that really is good news. Pathetic sentence, and fully deserved recall to be honest.

BatShite · 07/06/2018 23:01

The problem with manfriday is that its actually changing things. In a short period of time, they have managed to get the ridiculous swim guidance rules changed, have got multiple stories into the mainstream press, have established that male people also rather like sex segregation and get pretty annoyed when female people try to enter their areas, and have shown up the Hampstead Heath thing for the hypocrisy it is. Along with many many other 'problems'

So transactivists hate it so much and get very very rattled. And it shows.

The men behind manfriday it are simply, fantastic.

BatShite · 07/06/2018 20:49

Pro-womens rights. Not anti-trans. Caring about female humans does not make anyone anti-trans.

Picassospaintbrush · 07/06/2018 20:26

I thought you were emphasising your bias Supermatchgame.

CertainHalfDesertedStreets · 07/06/2018 20:10

What's With The Capitals?

Cascade220 · 07/06/2018 20:07

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LangCleg · 07/06/2018 20:05

When someone tells you that your pro-woman stance is anti-trans they aren’t telling you that they think you are anti-trans.

Yes. Accusations are always admissions. They're not talking to us: they're looking in the mirror and talking to themselves. Because they genuinely can't see anybody else.

Anyone who has ever had a narc in their lives can tell you this. Everything they say is projection.

HermioneWeasley · 07/06/2018 20:03

Oh they are rattled - the amazing ManFriday chaps are having a big impact and showing this lunacy for what it is

SupermatchGame · 07/06/2018 19:57

I'm providing you with some assistance Picasso

Bowlofbabelfish · 07/06/2018 19:44

Keep up the good work sweary! You’re getting your point out there in a civilised, non violent manner.

The TRAs don’t want public discussion, so this kind of thing is a direct threat to them. It’s working. Let’s get the public talking :)

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