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"Ireland has had self-ID for several years with no problems"

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Macareaux · 06/06/2018 13:24

Is this true? (The no problems bit)

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heresyandwitchcraft · 06/06/2018 16:48

Thanks for that example.
I also came across another video of the Danish trans woman above (Ibi-Pippi).

I don't know when she transitioned, so it's unclear what she means by heterosexuals, but here she is declaring the first heterosexual parade open. As she doesn't think it's fair that only "gays" get their own parade. (I understand a bit of Danish)

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 06/06/2018 16:46

I dont trust any of it

Ive seen too many articles in the papers about a few 'female' criminals and crimes that turned out to be transwomen

I hate it when people try and do a 'gotcha' moment and ask for proof that any transwomen are committing crimes when i know damn well that they are being reported as 'female' crime

ShotsFired · 06/06/2018 16:24

@heresyandwitchcraft Presumably incidents will be recorded/reported on as the self-ID'd gender.

Not Ireland, but I was coincidentally just reading this a minute ago:
"A Wrexham woman dragged her mother upstairs by her hair during a prolonged attack on family members, a court heard."

That would be Callum, their male-born son, with previous charges of assaulting then. Hasn't even bothered to lose the male name, the contempt is so great.

www.leaderlive.co.uk/news/16269673.Wrexham_woman_dragged_her_mum_upstairs_by_hair_in_violent_attack_on_family/

heresyandwitchcraft · 06/06/2018 15:24

Firstly, how would we know?

Presumably incidents will be recorded/reported on as the self-ID'd gender. So these would likely be obscured in the larger cohorts of male/female. Additionally, given the resistance to things like research into detransitioners, etc, I doubt anyone is actually actively looking for potential consequences of self-ID.

Also - I understand that places like prison are still separated by natal sex in Ireland.

Denmark has self-ID, there's an informative video of a transgender woman (legally a woman), but has retained all male characteristics, discussing wanting to use the women's facilities:

Canada has self-ID too - there was a famous case of Christopher Hambrook claiming to be transgender to gain access to a women's shelter. torontosun.com/2014/02/15/a-sex-predators-sick-deception/wcm/127b4003-d06d-489d-9679-861651dd3160

To say there are no examples of negative consequences of self-ID is not true, in my view. Undoubtedly, most of the time there are no incidents.But it's the weird and extreme consequences one should also consider. And there are examples of lawsuits over gender vs biological sex related issues, so it's not just about physical incidents, but a social/economic ones. Take the recent case of a waxing salon being unequipped to provide a waxing service for males, as the only woman who worked there on the day was Muslim and declined (www.theblaze.com/news/2018/05/19/muslim-salon-technician-refuses-to-perform-wax-treatment-on-transgender-woman-complaint-filed).

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