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Equality Act to be targeted

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Pratchet · 04/06/2018 18:29

Hi, just off to make dinner but would love to hear your thoughts on how quickly or if the Equality Act will be targeted by transactivists IF they win on Self ID.

At the moment they claim it won't be, but the movement has proved itself to be untrustworthy. When women give a little way, they have been completely stomped and big-footed.

My view is that if TRA get self ID, the Equality Act will be targeted as 'outdated' within six months.

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Pratchet · 05/06/2018 08:06

Interesting the Equality Act thread is one of those targeted. There's a message coming from so many directions that we should let self ID go and rely on the Equality Act. I've heard it from loads of transactivists, senior ones driving the agenda.

Absolutely not to be believed. This is a screenshot from a pp's previous link (thank you). They've realised that one organisation in particularly, wpuk, is very focused on sex-specific spaces. This is a fake attempt to try to reassure.

This is the fox, saying to the chickens: oh pleeease let me in the henhouse again? I promise I won't eat another one!'

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Pratchet · 05/06/2018 07:34

Is terfulike a trans poster trying to discredit Mumsnet?

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SunsetBeetch · 05/06/2018 07:16

Worst, most boring troll ever, Terfulike

Pratchet · 05/06/2018 07:08

Maybe it will then be thrown back in our faces when we don't want to care for great uncle doodah.

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thebewilderness · 05/06/2018 05:24

Women who identify as females will need to get a gender recognition certificate if they want to access gender services. Men who identify as male too, I suppose.

TheGoalIsToStayOutOfTheHole · 05/06/2018 04:25

I fail to see how anyone can look at this shitshow and see it as 'progress'. Its backlash against feminism, its obvious..and noone cares (except feminists, who are all hairy ugly man hater anyway so who cares what they think)

I am both interested in and dreading when the 'trans-age' stuff starts. Thats why so many men are backing this. Along with hating women of course. Its all in plain sight, and they have managed to get support. Its bonkers really.

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VanGoghsDog · 05/06/2018 00:15

If TIMs can get on all women shortlists, as protected by the EA, we're actually better off without it in that regard - put them back in the melting pit, up against men, instead of walking all over women.

And, while the EA has a limit, it's a max, not a min, and no parliament can bind a successor, so it can always be repealed.

UpstartCrow · 05/06/2018 00:11

If they cant change the Act itself, they will take the Labour Party route and change conditions around the Act to undermine it instead.
There are still people who deny this is a male rights movement. But women have never had that much power, and this has very clearly got nothing to do with equality.

Maryz · 05/06/2018 00:08

If transwomen are women the equalities act is worthless anyway.

That's why there is so much pressure to accept the TWAW narrative - once society accepts that (to be nice, obvs) then the EA may as well cease to exist. No need to reform it or get rid of it, all-women spaces will legally include TW. Single sex exemptions for women will include TW. Game over. Full fucking stop.

Ereshkigal · 05/06/2018 00:05

A review of the Equality Act 2010 to include ‘gender identity’ rather than ‘gender reassignment’ as a protected characteristic and to remove exemptions, such as access to single-sex spaces

www.stonewall.org.uk/women-and-equalities-select-committee-inquiry-transgender-equality

Writersblock2 · 05/06/2018 00:04

It could very well happen. We won’t exist in any meaningful way in public life. We will therefore do what many women did before us (and indeed do in many countries today) - we meet in private and find new ways to fight.

Ereshkigal · 04/06/2018 23:59

Hang on a sec.

HotRocker · 04/06/2018 23:59

Eresh, do you have a link to the Stonewall thing?

Ereshkigal · 04/06/2018 23:52

This was also the subject of my thread about Labour.

We need to talk about Labour
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3261952-we-need-to-talk-about-labour

Stonewall also have made several pledges to achieve reform of the Equality Act. In Miller's Trans Inquiry they gave a statement in which they advocated for the removal of the EA exemptions.

spontaneousgiventime · 04/06/2018 20:02

I don’t know if we’ll even be able to talk about sex difference if we lose EA. Someone will decide it’s all hate speech.

That'll piss the TIM's off. I do see them trying though, anything to cause society to fracture seems to be their aim.

Pratchet · 04/06/2018 19:56

Tout foutu

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ChattyLion · 04/06/2018 19:55

There won’t be any single sex spaces, services, awards, opportunities, sporting or educational opportunities, jobs, educational systems, medical care, research or statistics. Biological sex will be meaningless. I don’t know if we’ll even be able to talk about sex difference if we lose EA. Someone will decide it’s all hate speech..Sad

Terfulike · 04/06/2018 19:52

Ok we're fucked then

AnotherDayAnotherName745 · 04/06/2018 19:47

Does this mean that the only woman-only spaces will be labour wards?
Err, they aren't though are they? The dad's are there to support their partners, in labour, and visiting afterwards.
And a lot of doctors are male too.

Pratchet · 04/06/2018 19:40

Nice enough fella but yknow #tranzrightzrule

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Pratchet · 04/06/2018 19:40

Soz lgbtqwerty+ head of equalities

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Pratchet · 04/06/2018 19:36

The govt head of equalities is a youngish male drink of water who wouldn't know a woman's right if it jumped out of his Eton mess.

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