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What if we fail?

186 replies

Terfulike · 03/06/2018 15:40

I find myself worrying about where we will be 2, 5, 10, 20 years from now if we fail to stop the tide that, just now, with the GRA reforms, threatens to redefine the meaning of the word woman, erase lesbians and damage a generation of children.

I'm not saying we should give up: anything but. In fact, I think it might be an important motivating factor to consider what else might happen if our MPs continue to enshrine lies into laws.

What will come next?

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thebewilderness · 03/06/2018 18:00

I had thought that our ability to communicate would prevent the roll back of women's rights that have happened before.
Now that women are being beaten in the streets and silenced on the internet I no longer think it will be different from previous times that women were driven out of the public sphere by abusive males.
Women as a class never give in, and we never give up, and won't this time either.

theaveragewife · 03/06/2018 18:00

Just keep swimming....

Cascade220 · 03/06/2018 17:52

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PleaseDontGoadTheToad · 03/06/2018 17:39

I guess we start all over again.

Writersblock2 · 03/06/2018 17:37

We carry on. We fight. Same shit, different name.

UpstartCrow · 03/06/2018 17:37

Lets stick to what will we do if we fail to protect sex as a characteristic, and not get sidetracked.

PleaseDontGoadTheToad · 03/06/2018 17:34

a small group of vulnerable children will be getting the help they need.

In what way?

Melamin · 03/06/2018 16:57

Everything else will be pretty much the same

Nothing else will be the same, only we will not have the means to describe it or measure it.

WAKAME · 03/06/2018 16:54

"where we will be 2, 5, 10, 20 years from now if we fail to stop the tide"

There will officially be 0.6% more women in the world, and a small group of vulnerable children will be getting the help they need.

Everything else will be pretty much the same.

OnTheList · 03/06/2018 16:34

Back to hundreds of years of fighting for female spaces and such I guess.

Except with the added bonus of instead of 'man hating' we are 'transphobic'

Mind, I do think if it goes through, more than just feminists will be pissed off about it. I do think that IF men started kicking off, everything would change in an instant. I mean, look at the swim england guidance, women were to be re educated but once men complained, it was back to the drawing board. Same with the Hampstead Heath thing. Fine to let men ('self identified' women) into the womens pool, but women (self identifying men) are removed from the mens. I like to think we are now past the stage where such obvious double standards will be ignored, so if no women are allowed in the mens, then no men should be allowed in the womens tbh

UpstartCrow · 03/06/2018 16:30

The day after we start from the position where we find ourselves, just as women have done throughout history. We define what we want and we work towards achieving it.
We keep talking about women, who we are and what we need.

That's the calm, rational version anyway.

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