What if we fail?

There will officially be 0.6% more women in the world

I suppose there will be. At some point. Due to general population growth.

It won't be because men can change into women, because humans can't change sex.

I've seen all-out attacks on feminists from two directions recently. One is from the 'manosphere', MRAs, MGTOWs, incels, PUAs etc. The other is from transactivism. Although the manospherians certainly hated feminists, it was unusual to see anything like the level of violent rhetoric being directed at 'terfs'.

Honestly? I think the next thing would be trans age activists telling us we're all so bigoted because we dont want our children at nursery with trans age men.
Then the back lash.

But we will win because we have to will no one think of the children & the rest of the country is starting to wake up & mostly look like

I have the niggling suspicion that if the changes to the GRA go through, then the NHS will stop funding treatment. Theresa May has already stated that being trans isn't an illness. ( www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-transgender-not-illness-gender-recognition-act-lgbt-rights-sex-edution-homophobia-pink-a8008486.html )

If you can change sex legally, why do you need SRS, or hormones or any other kind of medical treatment?

I do strongly get the feeling that rowing back on women's rights is in part, the major part of this. You only have to see the horrible rise in out and out misogyny to understand that.

The identity bollocks will fall away eventually because it's a smokescreen and those who are pushing the agenda don't really give a shiny shit about people who are struggling with body dysmorphia and mental health issues.

The roll-back's on female rights will remain though as will the changes regarding children and parental consent over what happens to their bodies and general safeguarding - If I had to place money on what this agenda is really about, it would be this.

Well we know that.

But the rest of the world won't.

And everyone will ignore us because we're irrelevant old crones.

We are not.

Do I need to spell it out?

I suppose I do.

Only one pair of breasts and one penis needed, plus an acquiescent body to step out with.

That's a damn good question. Why are middle aged men transitioning but staying intact, yet they want youngsters under the knife.

Creating a subservient pipeline.

Eventually there will be a backlash. A massive backlash. I hope it'll come from feminists, but it might not.

This is the backlash. You are living it.

2rebecca That's a damn good question. Why are middle aged men transitioning but staying intact, yet they want youngsters under the knife.

Its my belief that there will be a right wing/authoritarian backlash, and that feminists will be caught up in it as they hate us as well as gender non conforming people.

Also mine.

Agree it seems bizarre that so many middle aged men who want to be "lesbians" keep their lady penis and get upset at the idea their dysmorphia should encompass the most masculine part of them but are keen to encourage teenagers to take hormones and become sterile so they can look more like the other sex whilst having reduced sexual functioning.
People turning in to Ken and Barbie with plastic non-functioning genitals.

You can bet your boots, when something like the trans cult appear there is something behind it that is not benign. Money is a powerful incentive to forget about people. Maybe not in my lifetime but sometime in the future the truth will out. A lot of this is for us, fighting in the dark with one arm tied behind our back.

Upstart you may have something there

We've already seen the rise of the 'alt right'. The left should start fighting poverty and inequality rather than miring itself in all this identity bollocks.

I agree everything will appear not to have changed as words have lost their meaning and there will be no way to know who's talking about what.

But then we will have years of law suits And a bunch of sterile adults suffering from god knows what issues through these drugs.

Hopefully people will learn from our mistakes and it won't happen again

Its my belief that there will be a right wing/authoritarian backlash, and that feminists will be caught up in it as they hate us as well as gender non conforming people.

I agree terfulike. My comment was about the 0.6% stat alone really.

Worst case scenario: 'gender fluidity' becomes normal. Men temporarily 'change gender' to access women's sports, prisons, refuges etc. Women also do it to get more social respect, but they find certain avenues closed to them, like primogeniture. Anyone who doesn't want to be seen as gender fluid has to exaggerate their femininity or masculinity. The options for people who identify as women get narrower and narrower, at least the 'cis' ones. There's no such thing as a young girl who likes football and isn't into pretty dresses - she's a 'non-binary child' now. Maybe she'll go on to have surgery, or maybe wanting surgery will be frowned on as 'truscum'.

Eventually there will be a backlash. A massive backlash. I hope it'll come from feminists, but it might not.