Where do we draw the trans line....?

"I know, it reallly does begger belief but some do walk round with a tampon up their arse, just as women walk round with them inserted in the usual place. All day long, in public, everywhere. And they take them out again too!"

False equivalence comparing men with tampons and women with tampons - completely different purposes.

I'll say again: inserting a tampon into a mans arse isn't going to reach the prostate effectively, therefore any physical stimulation is going to be minimal. Mental thrills from doing something kinky/taboo maybe, physical thrills = slim.

Like I said, go ask your gay male friends if they ever contemplated sticking a tampon up their arse to stimulate the prostate. And prepare to be laughed at

Yes they talk about it a lot online and share ideas.

The notion that a man can walk around in day to day life with a tampon up there and be stimulated is absurd Yet that is what some AGPs do. That was the point being made!

I know, it reallly does begger belief but some do walk round with a tampon up their arse, just as women walk round with them inserted in the usual place. All day long, in public, everywhere. And they take them out again too!

On the posts that showed the tampon stealing chats on another chat room, one AGP talked of inserting the tampon then removing it after masterbation... I'm sure it wasn't just all psychological stimulation.

@upstartcrow

The original point I was replying to and attempting to debunk was " "Prostate location is significant in these cases." cases meaning transwomen inserting tampons into their anus. The implication is that the tampon is stimulating the prostate. There is nothing in that original quote about getting off on the thrill of having it up there in public.

I'll say again, a tampon isn't big enough to effectively stimulate the prostate.

The notion that a man can walk around in day to day life with a tampon up there and be stimulated is absurd, has nobody here ever poked around up there with their DH?

Nobody here has gay male friends? Go and ask them their thoughts and get back to me instead of accusing me of "gaslighting"

All tampons are not Lillets. You also assume a fetishist would only use one.
What you are talking about is achieving an orgasm by stimulating the entire prostate.
Whereas smaller objects are used to provide longer term stimulation, and fetish objects can fall into that category. Especially when the fetishist is in public, as there is the added frisson of the people around not knowing what he is doing.

@lasqrrl

"Because yes, sticking fingers, dicks, tampons up the rectum is about the prostate. You may desist with the gaslighting now fms."

Ah yes, all of those things are exactly the same, length, girth, hardness

The notion that a man can self stimulate himself with something as small as a tampon is absurd

"Prostate massage, done yourself with just your own finger, can be a bit tricky unless you are using a tool. To get the proper stimulation to the entire gland, you're going to need something a little longer than a normal finger.

So I am going to tell you how to do that now.

Historically, many different "instruments" have been used, from cigar tubes and dildos to carrots."

www.prostate-massage-and-health.com/prostate-massage.html#.WxOvXuDTX3A

Bloody hell.

Hope does nicely sum up how I see things currently

Hope Pink

@hopepinkboots

3, It became apparent that the trans community were entitled men who claimed life was so hard but on the other hand they were all well educated and had well paid careers. Challenging the madness has seen more police interventions. Banned from trans groups and smeared.

"2. . I explained the history of wome's refuges etc but they didn't care. Some even demanded we take these places away from women as the trans community were more needy. I challenged that behaviour. One year later I found myself being interviewed under police caution."

twitter.com/hopepinkboots/status/1003150910661513217

It was always a mistake to introduce this pretence of men becoming women and we should have learned lessons that ratifying a lie is disastrous. We should never have lied to these people in the first place. You can't sustain this lie and it is becoming explosive trying to. My line is simply the truth. It's a hard line, but there it is.

*For decades this has hardly ever been an issue. Many women, myself included, were quite happy to share toilets, changing rooms and many other spaces with transwomen. And I doubt many men give transmen a second thought.

But the current TRA/AGP aggression has made me far less accepting. Once they started with the "We are women and so demand access to ALL female spaces, including refuges" shit I changed my mind entirely.

Purely because of the aggression, lack of respect and refusal to enter into open debate, I too would know say no men, at all!*

Exactly how i now feel about it.

When considering older trans people, most are male agp. Trans rights validate and protect their sexual fetish at the expense of women.

I bet some can't believe their luck that their secret is now celebrated.

Younger trans are a different group, mostly young girls, who are sucked into the ideology at enormous personal cost because it seems a better bet than being a woman in a porn-soaked society.

Both need to stop.

But we are nowhere near the turning point yet.

Picassospaintbrush Sun 03-Jun-18 01:58:26 fmsfms is a woman with a DH and DSs
Thanks Ppb, I thought we all knew that but perhaps not.

What Lang and Permission said plus I want that mile back now Prachet. That's what happens when my good nature, and that of other women, is taken advantage of by entitled men.

There is literally nothing a man can do to his body that makes him anything other than a man. Women are not men with body modifications. We're also not a personality type that certain men also have.

Agree with this.

was always a mistake to introduce this pretence of men becoming women and we should have learned lessons that ratifying a lie is disastrous. We should never have lied to these people in the first place. You can't sustain this lie and it is becoming explosive trying to.

And yes, absolutely.

Now we've got the AGP piggybacking onto the dysphoric, I'm afraid you're right.

Yep.

fmsfms is a woman with a DH and DSs

@bewilderness

I once did a video on a TIM who had SRS who thought his new 'front wound' was useless, infected, a bother, painful and said he preferred anything in his ass.

The finger can reach, so can a tampon.

Sorry to be graphic but there it is.

I've always been a woman who will always have a problem with biological males in women only spaces. We have sex based protections for a very good reason and imho, these spaces aren't employed enough.

I don't care how many surgeries or hormones a male takes. He will always be male and will never spend a single second being female.

My inch does not refer to dick diagram above

No to all from me. Third space please. We have an inch, they took a mile, so now I want the inch back.

Pray, do not tell.

Have picked this wikipedia picture, as it is clearest.
Perhaps you may care to study where your prostate is fms?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benign_prostatic_hyperplasia#/media/File:Benign_Prostatic_Hyperplasia_nci-vol-7137-300.jpg

Because yes, sticking fingers, dicks, tampons up the rectum is about the prostate. You may desist with the gaslighting now fms.

Lets not forget prisons.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5798945/Trans-women-convicted-men-attack-vulnerable-inmates.html