Where do we draw the trans line....?

Netball. Navy knickers... oh the horror, in a cold, northern playground. Corned beef legs all round.

Ahh damn it I said I’d stay outside

I am a woman and calling me offensive names will not be tollerated and reported

Someone doesn’t have much experience of having empathy with women.

In case you didn’t notice women are very frequently called offensive names, and it is very much tolerated. Thankfully not so much on MN.

If you are so determined to be literally a woman you should probably get used to being called names and grow a thicker skin (like so many women are told to)

Not that I think TIM is an offensive name at all. It’s a perfectly adequate description.

Distance running used to kill me, now I'm not bad, my memories of netball, freezing cold in the middle of winter in a pair of shorts waiting for someone to pass me the ball. No one ever did cos I'm a shorty.

Sarahconnor1 I loathed netball and did distance running and swimming instead. I couldn't run for a bus these days.

Non conformists, and non gardening tools, one and all!

No offence to all netball fans

I wanted to play football, they made me play fucking netball instead.

OH! So biological woman don't have a GRC? You learn something new on MN every day

I wanted to do woodwork but was shunted off to domestic science instead.

@Bowlofbabelfish please confirm you can read?

I can indeed read and I confirm my literacy. I enjoy reading, and have done for many years.

I was abused

I do t think you were.

called a TIM yes somebody did use that term which is offensive is it? You are a male human being who identifies as trans. I would state that was factual. We cannot legislate for offence caused by facts. If you’d like to move to somewhere where beliefs are protected in law then there are some charming theocracies for you to choose from.

then called a pig no, somebody used a porcine based metaphor. When someone says ‘bowl; you swim like a fish! They are not actually calling me a fish. They are making a comment on the verb in the metaphor. Upon my swimming. Not implying I am, in fact, a fish.

who was stood up by a woman (I am engaged btw) congratulations!

then repeately harassed by being called male

No again you’re confusing fact and harassment. Harassment is not being called Male when you are Male. Harassment would be something like someone following you in the street every time you leave home shouting abuse at you because you were trans. That would be wrong, unpleasant and you would quite rightly be able to report this to the police*

if I started abusing you by calling you offensive names that woman find offensive, woud that be ok with you?

I would object if you did it in person or if you personally threatened me IRL. If you’re just doing it on here then you can call me whatever you like.

if soI can think of a few words in the dictonary that would be up to you. I can’t stop you, and you can’t do me any harm from where you sit. So while it would be rude, it wouldn’t be a criminal offence - unless of course it crossed into threatening behaviour.

Are you me LangCleg. I did exactly the same thing!

Sadly I couldn't get out of cookery or sewing cos the woodwork and metalwork teachers were seemingly scared of me

My woman certificate is in a box in the loft I think.

No! I object most strongly to have had that post deleted. There was no racism. Badly done MNHQ!!!

I think mine is in the same place as my 50m swiming certificate

Mine's hidden away with my touch typing certificate - which the school made me do because I was an actual girl.

(Made a fuss and got into technical drawing O level though. An early feminist victory for moi.)

Back at you, you old secateur!

I think mine is in the same place as my 50m swiming certificate

Can one of the women here post a photo of their GRC please? I don't seem to have one.

I am a woman and you dont call me that, so lets say I call you bitch or hoe or whore. thats what you are doing to me by calling me a TIM

Nah! I a human, not canine

I am not a garden implement

I have never sold my sex

But you, like every other trans man or woman are a trans identifing ma or woman. That's just biology! The very existance of a GRC confrms that!

Women's sport should only be for biological women.
Where there is communal undressing/changing, women only spaces should not include those with a penis.
If someone requests a female medical health professional, likewise not one with a penis (or if a man, that they have one).

@J4nice
You asked me who's rights are being violated, and my answer would be those of Muslim, Jewish, Sikh, Romany and other women, who can't perform certain actions in front of men who they are not related to.
Also, women who are having a miscarriage, or a heavy period and want privacy to deal with that.

We need private spaces for more than one reason. We dont just pee in bathrooms.

I'm in the middle of a Mel Brooks film, ain't I?

Have we hit 3p on income tax yet?!

J4nice, personally I find it highly offensive a male thinks he can be a woman.

You are offensive, highly so, you just have so little respect for women that you cant see it.

But can you please answer why you dont want third spaces?

No I am Curious and there is no way you are an expert in any law... that's self-evident!

And your focussing on toilets is indicative of your trying to narrow the conversation, a tactic we have seen many times before. As most posters here would say "Piss where you like, it has been happening for decades. But don't demand I call you a woman, don't call me cis, and stop trying to bloody silence me"