Where do we draw the trans line....?

the only thing I do, outside a cubicle, visible to anyone else, in a public loo, is wash my hands.

Having had a miscarriage that started while on a ferry crossing, I was incredibly grateful for the women's restroom where I was able to cry a bit, borrow a pad from a fellow passenger, wash my hands, check the mirrors to see the state of my pants, and pull myself together before returning to my party.

Yes, this is about much, much more than bathrooms. But that said, lots of things happen in bathrooms, both inside and outside the stalls.

cannock that's because it has been reduced to peeing in toilets, rather than all of the other sex segregated areas.

I'd agree with that. My TIF friend has a GRC, I know because if the many years I spent supporting him throughhis complete physical and legal transition.

But not many others know and he actively avoids places like this. He has fought his fight, won his battle and want nothing mroe than to live the live he has built for himself. Not least enjoying his long term relationship with a heterosexual woman who never knew the previous him.

J4 came in too hard and fast. they could never keep up that pace.

Easy come; easy go.

It's not just about peeing and toilets

You asked me who's rights are being violated, and my answer would be those of Muslim, Jewish, Sikh, Romany and other women, who can't perform certain actions in front of men who they are not related to.
I'm quite confused by this - the only thing I do, outside a cubicle, visible to anyone else, in a public loo, is wash my hands. Do all those groups have beliefs that say a man can't see that? I'm genuinely asking, apologies if I'm being dim!

J4 came in too hard and fast. they could never keep up that pace.

Snigger

i'm still genuinely torn on whether they were real or not

It was fun while it lasted, but I'm saying not. I mean, we must have run out of GRC holders by now. There aren't that many of them but somehow they all seem to end up here.

(In my experience, trans people with GRCs are the least likely to be political or go about doing things like this.)

This one didn't last long though. An early withdrawal, rather than a dramatic flounce. 4.0 at best.

Does this mean my tax rate is safe?

J4 came in too hard and fast. they could never keep up that pace.

i'm still genuinely torn on whether they were real or not.

My favourite is @PicassosPaintbrush who is both ex military and an expert on pay.

I know, its amazing, in my womanly life I've managed to have two successful careers. I was a Photographer in the RN for clarity. I also Yacht raced for the RN and the marines and still race regularly.

Plus I also set up and ran for five years a small pub company with my husband, I am an expert in real ale keeping, waddaya got to say about that? Racked barrels or floating widgets? We talked to the Director of Operations at Weathers and switched to the floating widgets. Do google splat me if you know better. I can landlady talk all night.

Hoping to have a third (fourth) career in my later years.

Tech Drawing. Yes, I gave up needlework as the teacher was too effing slow, and as the only girl in the Tech Drawing room they made me sit CSE and O level - cos I was a girl. Passed both obviously.

Us women, you can't hold us down. All that manly stuff we can do!

I think we need a 'hoe' icon to save J's blushes in the future.

Apart from dive bombing for chips?

I think you're right. We broke it too soon

This one didn't last long though. An early withdrawal, rather than a dramatic flounce. 4.0 at best.

Is quality dropping? I feel like we aren’t seeing the truly fabulous flouncing coupled with torrents of misogynistic abuse so much at the moment.

Hoe hoe hoe... (chuckle.)

It does sound like a drag queen name, CuriousaboutSamphire.

Miss Linguist? Isn't that a TRA name?

Totally bonkers
I suggest we all hand ourselves in at the local nick

It's funny how they say misgendering and not being allowed to use the women's facilities causes anxiety and triggers dysphoria, while not giving a jot about how their presence may genuinely cause women and children distress, especially in a refuge.

Because it's all about MEMEMEMEMEMEME what I want and the hell with everyone else, you miserable gardening implements.

J4 was perplexed

In case the poster in question read that post, you might want to replace it with a simpler word so that the they can understand. You terf, you.

*Women: We're a bit worried about violent male people in our private spaces.

TRA: Fucking bigot TERF, you need a punch. Suck my dick. I'm going to report you to the police for hate crimes.

Excellent.

And, CuriousaboutSamphire, your ditty made me laugh.

(Gee. I hope the word 'ditty' isn't triggering. I don't want to be reported for mis-linguisting.)

My suggestion is to let the poster have h* fun and just ignore h. That will be more painful for h than engaging with h*.

It's also odd that J4 didn't seem to understand when I replaced TIM with cis. When it was as J4 wrote it, it was asserting that misgendering was a hate crime. But when I pointed out that cis would also be a hate crime, as it too misgenders, well J4 was perplexed.

(Did you see how careful I was there? Saintly, that's what I am)

We know a song about that

Hooray, Hooray,
It's another TRA
We'll have lots of fun
Peak Trans everyone
Happy TERFY day

(OK, that last line needs a bit of work )