Where do we draw the trans line....?

J4nice

Just stop it with the twisting and misrepresentation, it's nonsense. No one called you a pig, no one called you a rapist.

I'm starting to think you are here just to see if you get us to say something that you can post on Twitter as evidence of transphobia.

Gender isn’t Sex. The only people who can possibly be Female are those of us BORN Female.
A legal fiction of a birth certificate doesn’t change material reality.

Looking back over the thread I see one price of abuse i missed this

@TerfsUp
TRA: Fucking bigot TERF, you need a punch. Suck my dick

This is the kind of mentality of users on MN

J4nice: What does "female" mean?

@SirVixofVixHall actually that's where you are wrong, my birth certificate states I was born female and my gender is female to call me anything but female is an insult

T.I.M is an offensive word and again caused distress and upset and the post did say I was a PIG who was stood up by woman but I will see if I can find it to quote it if MN have not removed it

Hi again J4nice. Nobody called you a pig. Someone said you were squealing like a pig - totally different thing.

Nobody is threatened by you. Nobody called you a rapist. You were advised that trans people in general have been found to have the same offending patterns as those of their biological sex and that this is why many women are wary of trans women.

TIM is not offensive. It's not an expression I like to use myself but it's a factual descriptor not a weapon.

Your GRC gives you many of the same legal protections as a woman. It doesn't make you a woman, because biology.

I've not seen anyone try to silence you. But if you are not an activist of any kind (or a troll) why did you to choose to post on a part of the forum that is specific to womens' rights rather than in one of the other topics that interest you?

Oh and welcome to mumsnet. Did you play netball at school? I was too short to be any good at it sadly but I was wide enough to be quite useful in goal for the hockey team.

No you are not an actual woman. You are transgender. Having the legal right to be treated as though you were a woman, in certain situations. Does not mean that you have actually changed sex. And no, you do not have the same rights. You have ( quite rightly ) rights that protect you from discrimination, but we also have the right to single SEX provision where appropriate. As you are not the same sex as women this does not include you.
Also what on earth is this “stood up by a woman “stuff ? Why are you making things up ?

That's is not what your post implies

I was talking to the rest of the group at that point

I am a woman and have the same rights as you under law and protections from discrimination and to say that I am a rape threat or a thread to woman is disgusting to be honest

EVIDENCE to where I said that

@ReluctantCamper @thebewilderness
I didn't burn out I was just out enjoying the company of my friends over dinner but thanks for asking

Bottle green knicker shorts. With a yellow stripe down each side.

We are calling this, and similar behaviours (not all trans connected) The Cult Of Me. It seems to fit.

You may be sad to hear that MN silver hammer cam down on J4.

Good.

Hope you enjoyed your cake last night thebewilderness Well done all, I missed it, only just caught up. Unbelievable how they think their problems are to do with us and that we can be silenced.

I'm just going to leave this here in case no one has seen it.

I am so happy I'm fmsfsm's favourite.

Here ready to talk about barrel widgets at any time.
www.caskwidge.com/

Honestly, I felt like we should have had a whip round for J4 for the laughs.

You may be sad to hear that MN silver hammer cam down on J4.
I was not. I had to celebrate.

@Cannockcanring As an example, women from some cultures can't show their hair to a man they aren't related to. If they wear a headscarf it has to be kept adjusted to keep their hair completely hidden.
To make it absolutely clear; I don't support patriarchal cultures that impose those kinds of restrictions. I do support the women who live with them.

Some very serious concerns have been raised on this thread.

1, Please stop telling males they can piss wherever they like. Please. Municipalities are installing splashers to cause the urine to splash back on the men pissing on walls everywhere they go. It is a serious health problem to have the streets running with urine.

2, What is going to happen to men and women who do not have a GRC when sex is erased from all forms and replace with gender? Will we be denied medical treatment because we have no proof of gender? Will we be denied use of public facilities because we cannot prove we have a gender?

Probably disappeared as fast as they did to go and have a lie down.

J4 came in too hard and fast. they could never keep up that pace.

😂😂😂😂

I was thinking J4 must be MN virgin for similar reasons. Lots of bluster and enthusiasm but lacking technique and staying power in the face of experienced women.

I remember when an old Twitterer had the display name "Hoe." A TiM went off on a massive rant about how she was slut shaming women and sex workers and should change it. She replied with a screenshot of the definition of hoe and he blocked her.

Not the sharpest knife in the drawer, some of them.

Mine were maroon. We had to wear two pairs of knickers at all times. At least my tiny bottom wasn’t chilly.