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No True Transwoman - transadvocates question whether TW is 'genuine' after said TW sexually harasses women in homeless shelter

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CaitlynsCat · 02/06/2018 08:36

abc30.com/3514544/

'It says the shelter requires them to shower in groups, and it opened its doors to a person who identified themself as a transgender woman who made lewd and sexually inappropriate comments, and leered at them while they were naked.

"This is the biggest fear they bring up, that you're going to have people who may not even be transgender in bathrooms and settings where people are naked and their privacy rights are being violated," said Peter Kapetan, who filed the lawsuit on behalf of the women.

Poverello House administrators tell Action News federal law says they have to treat a person identifying as a woman as a woman -- and there's no way to test whether it's true.'

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The women say they repeatedly complained to staff members, but were told if they didn't respect the person's decision to identify as a woman, and if they refused to take showers at the same time, they'd get kicked out of the shelter.
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'Karen Adell Scot, a local transgender advocate, even offered to train Naomi's House employees on how to recognize people just pretending to identify as the opposite gender.'

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R0wantrees · 02/06/2018 09:08

Karen Adell Scot, a local transgender advocate, even offered to train Naomi's House employees

There seem to be a lot of opportunities for people who transition to become trainers / consultants / advisers etc.

StringandGlitter · 02/06/2018 09:03

That’s awful. It’s not that they don’t respect her as a women, it’s that they object to the persons behaviour as a a sexual harasser.

How would the house deal with a biological woman that intimidated and harassed others in the shower? What are the standards of conduct for all people there?

But of course this would never happen. A true TW would never do this, and no man would take advantage of policy to sexually harass some. Therefore it hasn’t and can’t happen. Hmm

Opheliah · 02/06/2018 09:03

They have a grand solution to the fact a male pervert has scammed his way into a vulnerable women's safe space.
Shower curtains.

This is where we are.

FlippinFumin · 02/06/2018 08:53

Oh, here is another example of that thing happening that is never going to happen.

2rebecca · 02/06/2018 08:50

It was always going to happen. I think self ID is ultimately doomed because men WILL abuse it.
The issue is how many women are abused and leered at before law makers and politicians see sense. Self ID only benefits the voyeurs.
it doesn't help the credibility of the trans community or women.

CaitlynsCat · 02/06/2018 08:48

Note that the TW who they, bizarrely, choose to interview on how the shelter is super-accepting towards TW (hardly the point of the article I would have thought) is apparently themselves less than upstanding.

"The staff was extremely accommodating," said Michelle Nastasis, a transgender professional poker player who stayed at Naomi's House a couple years ago. "In fact, we worked out a system where none of the girls would be offended when I went to take a shower."

Nastasis says she got along with some of the women who filed the lawsuit and everybody treated her with respect. "

www.gofundme.com/4aoh30w

"Oh Michelle Nastasis , I wanted to say FU and let you know that the flowers that I ordered for you since you scammed in believing you were attacked and beaten up due to a hate crime against transgender women in Fresno, California and trying to deliver to you several times in Fresno Hospital which were discharged and come to find out your in a shelter scamming them.

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TransplantsArePlants · 02/06/2018 08:39

This would simply never happen Confused

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