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ManFriday article in the Daily Mail

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flowersonthepiano · 01/06/2018 23:25

Good coverage of ManFriday at the Hampstead ponds - including supportive comments from Debbie Hayton, and not so supportive (stop being silly wimmin) comments from Jane Fae
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5796701/Hampstead-ponds-row-continues-transgender-demands-going-far.html

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spontaneousgiventime · 02/06/2018 00:44

Absolutely superb article. I'm shocked at the Fail. Amy and Hannah you truly are so brave and I admire you both immensely.

I skipped the Fae bit as I know it will have been their usual drivel.

Ereshkigal · 02/06/2018 00:43

What Jane Fae fails to point out is that women's spaces are protected largely by social norms and conventions. Self-ID makes it harder for women to challenge someone who they think should not be there.

YY exactly.

RailReplacementBusService · 02/06/2018 00:42

As a side point I had to laugh about the “not strident” language. Obviously one of the worst things a woman could be is strident Hmm

Ereshkigal · 02/06/2018 00:39

Really great article, well done Sweary, Amy and Debbie!

SwearyG · 02/06/2018 00:29

I’m a bit sad tbh. A great article, really great, but they worked out who my mum is and spoke to her in depth and then put in a bit about my dad. Ever the daily fail.

I can’t be cross though. It’s fucking excellent. It makes all our points in a reasonable way and makes Jane Fae look exactly who they are.

Bravo, Frances. Thank you for publishing our voices. Please publish mummy at some point. She has some really good points to add.

busyboysmum · 02/06/2018 00:25

Comments going up now so worth posting in support as the early ones often end up the top comments.

DebbieInBirmingham · 02/06/2018 00:22

What Jane Fae fails to point out is that women's spaces are protected largely by social norms and conventions. Self-ID makes it harder for women to challenge someone who they think should not be there.

And the idea that @Swearygodmother is whipping up violence against trans people is plain ludicrous.

loveyouradvice · 02/06/2018 00:21

Wow!!!! Cant believe that article .... could have been written by one of us! Fabulous to see so much sense in print.

bd67th · 02/06/2018 00:17

Jane Fae claiming that men would never do such a thing? Lollollol does JF think that we don't remember what JF was campaigning for back when JF was John Ozimek? No wonder so many TRAs hate their "dead names".

Waddlelikeapenguin · 02/06/2018 00:10

That's a brilliant article! JF's comments take up so much less space when you dont include the sighing Grin.

PlectrumElectrum · 02/06/2018 00:04

That's a good article, really good.

busyboysmum · 01/06/2018 23:56

I know. Imagine a rogue male pretending to be something to abuse women and girls..... how utterly ridiculous.

boatyardblues · 01/06/2018 23:55

Citing the example of predatory males infiltrating women’s refuges, she says: ‘This notion that a rogue male could take advantage of it (the self-identifying law) is silly.

^ This direct quote from Jane Fae made me laugh because its so fucking outrageous. Then I realised that’s exactly why the Mail included it. Let the disingenuous bullshit see the light of day and peoplecan make their own minds up.

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flowersonthepiano · 01/06/2018 23:47

Yes, I forgot about the highlighting of TRA intimidation. It was a very GC sympathetic piece.

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MrsWooster · 01/06/2018 23:37

I think that's amazingly clear on the issues. If more msm gave a voice to tw like Debbie and publicised the contrast between the activities of ManFriday et al and those of the die-in-a-fire TRAs and twitterbanners, the rights of all sides would be a deal safer.

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