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Good article today - BBC on the twitter ban on women's free speech on trans issues

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RedToothBrush · 29/05/2018 20:49

www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-44288431?__twitter_impression=true
Twitter 'bans women against trans ideology', say feminists

The BBC!

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Ereshkigal · 31/05/2018 15:47

That was idiotic. As a male friend of mine amusingly quipped at the time, having any announcement at all is exclusionary to deaf people.

Destinysdaughter · 31/05/2018 15:33

According to Aimee's blog, they campaigned to stop TFL from using the words " Ladies and gentlemen" at the start of their passenger announcements. I really don't get how that is 'transphobic' ?

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 31/05/2018 12:17

No I mean this is the grandiosity. Who cares what Aimee Challoner personally wants?

That makes a lot more sense! Grin

I can't help wandering if this a narcissistic thing (in TIMs)? By becoming trans you transition from a rather boring bog standard bloke, to a stunning and brave transwoman who gets to be a spokesperson, and who's opinion seems to matter...

R0wantrees · 31/05/2018 12:17

Formation of the group and background discussed here by Miranda Yardley:
mirandayardley.com/en/ma-vie-en-rose-ruth-hunts-rose-tinted-transgoggles-and-the-anti-woman-politics-of-stonewall/

Good article today - BBC on the twitter ban on women's free speech on trans issues
Italiangreyhound · 31/05/2018 12:15

@JoanSummers

Almost not sure I ea t to Danbury I am so anti porn I feel I must as, 're "Why does the BBC never ask about Fae's activism for extreme porn?"

What is the history. And why is it ignored? Surely it is relevant if someone is presenting one view of themselves.

Ereshkigal · 31/05/2018 12:08

Ok that makes sense. It still sounds a tad pompous.

R0wantrees · 31/05/2018 12:07

Aimee is part of Stonewall's Trans Advisory group:
www.stonewall.org.uk/trans-advisory-group

Ereshkigal · 31/05/2018 12:07

I am willing to continue have discussions with the BBC and others, on how we can achieve factual news articles that are fair and balanced, and don’t propagate harm against LGBTIQA+ people.

No I mean this is the grandiosity. Who cares what Aimee Challoner personally wants? Why should the BBC? Who is hanging on Aimee's pronouncements and awaiting their wise counsel as a dull 20 year old transactivist?

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 31/05/2018 12:03

Delusions of grandeur too. Wants to be the next Madigan

Lily Madigan?

I'm not sure I'd class that as a particularly grandiose aim....

Pratchet · 31/05/2018 11:59

Aimee has friends on the Twitter mothership

R0wantrees · 31/05/2018 11:57

I think Aimee seems to have been quite influential within politics for longer that LM.

Ereshkigal · 31/05/2018 11:54

How deluded Aimee is, that’s quite disturbing.

Delusions of grandeur too. Wants to be the next Madigan.

JoanSummers · 31/05/2018 09:43

He really does believe he is a woman

I don't believe that.

I think that these men do believe that we have to pretend they are women. Which is a bit different.

Destinysdaughter · 31/05/2018 08:25

I got suspended from Twitter yesterday for saying they were a man. Should have known better really but they were banging on about safe spaces and I said, You're a white man. Everywhere is safe for you...

Undecided whether to bother going back on Twitter now. So tired of this shit!

wishiwassizeeight · 31/05/2018 08:19

He really does believe he is a woman.

I expect this will be deleted as I have pointed out a incontrovertible biological cal fact which of course isn’t allowed.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 31/05/2018 08:15

I agree. Out comes the mantra again.

wishiwassizeeight · 31/05/2018 00:14

How deluded Aimee is, that’s quite disturbing.

R0wantrees · 31/05/2018 00:06

Aimee Challoner comment article:
'It’s hard tackling transphobia when the BBC propagate it'
(concludes)
"The BBC may see it appropriate to give a platform to those who are abusive online, but I don’t and clearly, neither does Twitter. The type of abuse that goes on online is horrendous and it affects so many people on a daily basis. I’ve previously written about the issue calling for urgent action; I’m pleased to see that Twitter is doing taking it. I am willing to continue have discussions with the BBC and others, on how we can achieve factual news articles that are fair and balanced, and don’t propagate harm against LGBTIQA+ people. Finally, let me make it clear, I am not a man. I have never been, and I never will be. I am a woman. I am open about my trans history, but first and foremost I am a woman. In the Green Party, we are clear on our policy; Trans Women are Women. Trans Men are Men. Non-Binary Identities are Real and Valid."

inews.co.uk/opinion/comment/bbc-transgender/

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 30/05/2018 09:36

Gah. Not as successful as the PM interview, in my view. The nonbinary interviewee was very hostile and talked over Nic Williams repeatedly. At least Nic was able to make the point about the Girl Guides straight off and that was unchallenged.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 30/05/2018 09:28

Available to listen again now, 2hrs 39 minutes in.

Melamin · 30/05/2018 08:46

it has been on already Ophelia

Opheliah · 30/05/2018 08:44

Radio 4 are covering this at 0850

Melamin · 30/05/2018 08:44

They have Nic Williams.

Melamin · 30/05/2018 08:43

Oh they are talking over her not going well.

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