Hampstead Havoc- go girls!

Oh gosh. The comments are infuriating. It really does prove that men just aren't interested in listening to women. Even when they have the point explained to them, never a response.

Well. They'll just have to keep having it hammered home then. Go #ManFriday.

So much irony in the comments

LOL

Like I've said it's pretty easy to tell, for a start trans woman don't go around saying they're men one day and woman the next.
So what do you think of Philip/Pippa Bunce, who wins awards for women, and advises the girl guides on trans inclusion?

I have done, well that's fraud I'm afraid if it's used like that judging by what I've read on that website. Like I've said it's pretty easy to tell, for a start trans woman don't go around saying they're men one day and woman the next. Then their Ids match up, legally changing names, driving licences, bills, passports and so on. As well as many other factors. It's not hard to work out.

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It's pretty straightforward to change the sex on your driving licence.

And if you read the stuff I quoted in my previous post, the KLPA say that you should not "assume someone’s gender simply by their appearance".

So how do you tell the genuine transwomen from the fakes?

Well done!
Thanks for doing this.
I struggle with the DM comments and mine often don't get posted but you can comment on FB as the article is on there (again - multiple men missing the point entirely "there would be outrage if men did this in women's places..er it's already happening)

Like this person? m.youtube.com/watch?v=argNVR5HVgE

@OldCrone maybe because a genuine trans woman (or trans man) will have a driving licence or ID for their gender? And be of appearance of said gender. Not hard really.

Jane Fae is also a porn activist of some sort.

I don't think she is today... its Tuesday!

I'm in a little bit in love with Amy. Which is fine as I'm a heterosexual female and she is a man.

Oh.. that’s the same person that thinks that women’s skulls are fragile like egg shells? Oh I see.. which explains when DV make abusers give those skulls even just a gentle tap then they crack and women die?
Jesus H. Sickening. Because our skulls are too thin. That’s the most ludicrous, offensive victim blaming shit. Is there really not a better spokesperson for the gender uncritical extremist perspective?

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The TRAs 'won't engage' in debate because they say that they won't debate their existence or some bollocks ('cos yes, we think they are ghosts). But it's really because they know in their arguments don't stand up to scrutiny.

So Jane "women get killed in domestic violence because their skulls are like egg shells" Faye gets rolled out as JF is one of the few willing to debate.

And then talks over women, and calls them ridiculous

Jane Fae is an incurable witterer - why JF is rolled out on these kind of programs is beyond me. You would think the TRA lobby were deliberately trying to make things as obscure and confusing as possible because it can't be that they have no one who can cobble together a cogent argument. .

Just spent half an hour commenting and red green arrowing. Why are so many people so thick. Arggg

Just heard this in the car and have come to post ASAP to say well done to Amy! You were calm, clear and gave examples of what we’re objecting to. Your comments about support of trans people and how the current law is fine, the process needs clarifying were perfect, not least because it made Jane Fae’s argument that we’re all big meanies a nonsense. Jane Fae on the other hand only seemed to have Jane Fae’s opinion on this and that was all. Shame they gave Jane Fae the last word on it but you were fab!

Brilliant stuff! The mankini was particularly inspired.

I imagine West Yorks police will be champing at the bit to hot foot it down the motorway to 're-educate' PC Barry and his Met colleagues now.

Sorry, fat thumbs...

Just heard PM too.
Amy Desir - clear, concise argument presented with evidence.
Jane Fae - all over the place.

Well done all Man Fridayers - I salute you!

Just heard PM too.
Amy Desir - clear, concise argument presented with evidence.

WTF? Prisons is not the only arena this is relevant in (Contrary to Jane Fae’s assertion)

Thanks for the link- listening now. What utter bollocks! You have to promise to self ID as the other sex for life and if you don’t you go to prison for perjury. WTF??
That’s ludicrous and also that doesn’t deal with the issue that women want and need their own spaces.

Amy is such a brilliant, clear, articulate speaker. Wow. Thank you.

Amy Desir from ManFriday is on BBCRadio4 PM with Jane Fae now...

Listen here: www.bbc.co.uk/radio/player/bbc_radio_fourfm

Amy and your other bloke mates- wow you guys are totally inspiring heroes. Slaps on the back and fist bumps all round. Thank you for doing this. It’s so important to have this debate out there in public and you chaps are doing it in such a witty, articulate way.

PS as for the male swimmers the DM says shouted out ‘they’re women!’- can you imagine what would happen to women swimmers who shouted out ‘they’re men!’if it were TRAs getting in the women’s pool- they would be worrying for their own safety from TRAs.

Women are being silenced by this in a way that other men won’t be so it’s really important that you are taking this debate into men’s spaces so they understand what legal gender self ID means for them, and then they penny will drop about the consequences for us, (women) too.

Radio 4 at 5.15
& featured in this BBC report: 'Twitter 'bans women against trans ideology', say feminists'
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44288431