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Turns out Hampstead swimming ponds are single SEX after all ...

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PencilsInSpace · 28/05/2018 16:47

... at least the men's pond is Hmm

Well done to the fabulous #ManFriday gents for exposing this rank hypocricy! Splendid work, chaps Flowers

Turns out Hampstead swimming ponds are single SEX after all ...
Turns out Hampstead swimming ponds are single SEX after all ...
Turns out Hampstead swimming ponds are single SEX after all ...
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Invalid · 28/05/2018 18:24

Bylaws 10, 44 and 45

Turns out Hampstead swimming ponds are single SEX after all ...
Turns out Hampstead swimming ponds are single SEX after all ...
Elendon · 28/05/2018 18:24

Your clitoris is bigger and better than any penis on show.

TerfsUp · 28/05/2018 18:23

Well done! That is such great news. Thank you, Amy and Hannah.

Popchyk · 28/05/2018 18:23

I wonder if ManFriday and WomanWednesday would ever get together to have a simultaneous swim in the opposite sex pools?

Maybe on a Thursday?

LangCleg · 28/05/2018 18:22

Better luck next time girls!

Please don't misgender people. It's literal violence.

LangCleg · 28/05/2018 18:21

but there's no equivalent byelaw banning female persons from areas reserved for male persons

This just gets better and better! This, plus all the dudebros having melt downs and being entirely unable to disguise their rampant sexism and Miranda being a self-ID man to boot - I'm having a fab afternoon!

averylongtimeasspartacus · 28/05/2018 18:20

Oh, and very well done ManFriday lads, #boveriesofsteel.

averylongtimeasspartacus · 28/05/2018 18:19

Yes, there seems to be a man's pond for biological men ( beings with a penis in case you were wondering), a mixed pond for anyone, with or without a penis/vagina and a woman's pond, for anyone with or without a penis or vagina as long as they identify as a woman.

So it's perfectly ok for a person with a male body who identifies as a women to go swimming at the women's pond, but it is not ok for a female bodied person who identifies as a man to go for a swim at the men's pond.

Rank hypocrisy.

SarahAr · 28/05/2018 18:19

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AssassinatedBeauty · 28/05/2018 18:18

I wonder which bylaw they meant then, when they told the manfriday protestors that they had to leave the men's pond? Odd.

PencilsInSpace · 28/05/2018 18:15

According to the byelaws there would be nothing stopping them going to the men's pond as women anyway. It says:

6. No male person over the age of 14 years shall go or attempt to go into any part of any open space in contravention of any regulation of the Council specified in a notice exhibited on such part reserving such part for the use of female persons and children under the age of 14 years only.

  • but there's no equivalent byelaw banning female persons from areas reserved for male persons.
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InLoveWithDavidTennant · 28/05/2018 18:07

Ooh jolly well done!

If they dont say the same about the womens pond then its all a bunch of bullshit. Will be interesting to see how this plays out.

pombear · 28/05/2018 18:02

Well done #ManFriday. Your action really helps to flush out the true issues here - there's a (assuming pronouns!) man commenting early on in your twitter feed saying he was there and men weren't supportive.

On his feed he retweets someone saying:
"Great. Daily Mail rocks up with some self-professed “radical” “feminists” claiming to be men at the Men’s pond to protest trans women using the women’s pond. Like what feminists work with Daily Mail?! Ffs. TRANS WOMEN ARE WOMEN"

a) I don't recall Amy or SwearyG self-identifying as radical feminists. Seems yet again a broad brush slur.

b) Surely, in this case, you'd be defending TRANS MEN ARE MEN. 'Cos in the mad world of identity politics, surely what Man Friday have just done has more implication for one of the very quiet, very unobtrusive transmen who want to go for a swim in the pond of the gender/sex they identify with. Why the need to shout about trans women?

Funny how all these men are all up in the trans-campaign when it's in their face...but just for males' rights. "Get out of the males pond/trans women are women".

Huh?!

LangCleg · 28/05/2018 17:56

Sweary G - if you're around - did you know about the by-laws before you went?

ChoccyJules · 28/05/2018 17:52

What Dino said. Exactly that.

Dinosaurchicken · 28/05/2018 17:51

Amazing. As soon as it starts to impact men it’s a “no”. Funny that.

Popchyk · 28/05/2018 17:43

I really look forward to hearing the council's explanation on this.

Maybe they could team up with the Labour Party and try to come up with some bullshit between them.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 28/05/2018 17:41

Especially as there is a mixed pond...

AncientLights · 28/05/2018 17:40

If the Equality Act 2010 allows for proportionate means, then surely if the men's pond is for men only (as we common folk understand the word men) as that is proportionate, then the women's pond similarly has to be for women only. Us born ones. Don't see how they can wriggle out of it.

Popchyk · 28/05/2018 17:40

Well done.

Looks very good humoured.

AsAProfessionalFekko · 28/05/2018 17:40

The third picture made me giggle. I love the expression!

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 28/05/2018 17:39

I don't get it, seriously

They have said it is self ID

I think they may have forgotten to get the byelaws altered...

PlectrumElectrum · 28/05/2018 17:37

Brilliant stuff 'ol chaps!

Balls of steel, the pair of you.

SardineReturns · 28/05/2018 17:35

I don't get it, seriously.

They have said it is self ID.

So do they mean the womens pond is self ID and the men's pond is for bio men only? That is fucking outrageous.

I for one am perfectly keen that the lovely gents who go to the men's pond have some space to themselves, I think there are few places to gather and the ponds are fairly famous as a place for gay men to hang out, I'm sure straight men do as well. .. Clearly not a place for women though, same as the women's ponds are not for men. There is a mixed pond as well...

No joke if it turns out that anyone can go in the women's and it's dicks only in the men's that is the most giganticly hypocritical thing ever.