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Turns out Hampstead swimming ponds are single SEX after all ...

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PencilsInSpace · 28/05/2018 16:47

... at least the men's pond is Hmm

Well done to the fabulous #ManFriday gents for exposing this rank hypocricy! Splendid work, chaps Flowers

Turns out Hampstead swimming ponds are single SEX after all ...
Turns out Hampstead swimming ponds are single SEX after all ...
Turns out Hampstead swimming ponds are single SEX after all ...
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RoxytheRexy · 28/05/2018 21:21

Fantastic Man Friday! Good work. In awe of you completely

Wanderabout · 28/05/2018 21:21

This is the weird thing - the byelaws do distinguish but in the other direction - no males in the ladies' pond, nothing about females in the men's pond

Curioser and curioser.

SardineReturns · 28/05/2018 21:09

I'm not sure that the men who freqent hampstead swimming ponds would be generally the best sample if seeking out breast preferring men Grin

And this is the point as well

The single sex ponds have quietly existed for an awful long time as a place that gay men & lesbians can hang out (not with each other [grin[). Of course the men don't want women there - and that goes for straight men who use them as well as some people do prefer single sex for a variety of reasons.

The idea that all must become single gender - not single sex - undermines this entirely, as it is so merrily undermining the very existence of homosexuality - insisting that it is by definition transphobic - that sexual orientation towards a sex rather than a gender is a bigoted position to take.

This is all aside of the utter hipocracy of the trans training being brought into effect when it's dicks in with the women, but a cunt or 2 in with the chaps and it's police time.

The fact that the byelaws only talk about keeping men out of the women's changing area reflects the reality that 1. there are a lot more pervy men than women and 2. in general men are more of a threat to women than vice versa.

ToeToToe · 28/05/2018 21:05

W Yorks police would have had 'em banged up for life Grin

Or perhaps on the ducking stool - they're bringing that back, right? For mouthy women...?

MaryPoppinsImperfectSister · 28/05/2018 21:00

I find it amazing that women say they don't want dicks in their space and they're labeled bigots and paranoid.

But dear God, men having to see a few tits jiggled in their faces then suddenly policies need reviewing, single sex spaces need to be honoured, police have to be called.

And here I thought men liked breasts. Now they need to be protected from them.

OfSpartacus · 28/05/2018 20:59

Just to clarify they were the Hampstead Constabulary not the Met.

Probably the most exciting thing they've had to police in a while. Bet the rest is littering, bike theft and illegal BBQs!

www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/things-to-do/green-spaces/hampstead-heath/visitor-information/Pages/Constabulary.aspx

PencilsInSpace · 28/05/2018 20:55

if the byelaws don't distinguish, then the byelaws have said that both ponds are only open to biological men/women as appropriate.

This is the weird thing - the byelaws do distinguish but in the other direction - no males in the ladies' pond, nothing about females in the men's pond Confused

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Rufustheyawningreindeer · 28/05/2018 20:52

Nicholas was a random spammer advertising some dodgy service for people suspicious of their partners fidelity.

Well, colour me disappointed!!

ToeToToe · 28/05/2018 20:52

I think this all nicely demonstrates that this is Men's Rights Activism. Men - can go anywhere, do anything, if they identify as a woman - women - not so much. Police are called...

ToeToToe · 28/05/2018 20:51

Oh I see Grin Not a kreacher then - that makes a change!

drspouse · 28/05/2018 20:50

Certain if the byelaws don't distinguish, then the byelaws have said that both ponds are only open to biological men/women as appropriate.

And if the staff have been trained, why would they not be trained both ways?

AssassinatedBeauty · 28/05/2018 20:49

Nicholas was a random spammer advertising some dodgy service for people suspicious of their partners fidelity.

ToeToToe · 28/05/2018 20:44

Aw - I missed what Nicholas said! Shame....was it nasty bigots and terfs ?? Love it when the TAs come on here like Kreacher. Grin

CertainHalfDesertedStreets · 28/05/2018 20:41

But I don't think anyone has ever said the men's pond is open to TiFs have they?

I know it's absolutely breathtaking in its open hypocrisy and misogyny but I think it's true - men have three ponds to choose from at Hampstead - one of those single sex and women have two mixed sex ponds - albeit one only for female 'gendered' people.

Very happy to be corrected if they have said anything like that about the men's pond?

Loopytiles · 28/05/2018 20:41

Whoever called the police, and whoever in the police services deemed it necessary to attend and make the manfriday people to leave wasted the time.

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 28/05/2018 20:40

Absolutely disturbingly

But I expect daim is getting right on that as i type

DisturblinglyOrangeScrambleEgg · 28/05/2018 20:37

So the staff at the mens pool were definitely wasting police time...possibly you could email and tell them so

Yes, it seems they've forgotten their trans inclusiveness training - they should probably go back for re-education.

PencilsInSpace · 28/05/2018 20:34

#Manfriday is such a wonderful, gentle campaign. It's humorous but at the same time it goes straight to the heart of the issue. Nobody's harmed, it purely targets the stupid rules that are being brought in without consulting women.

And it really pisses off the TRAs - because it's working!

Go for it David, I'll be very interested in their response.

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Theinconstantgardener · 28/05/2018 20:34

You two are amazing!

CertainHalfDesertedStreets · 28/05/2018 20:32

So you wasted police time?

Time they could be spent helping women or girls in need?

Is that what you think the police do with their time? Bless. Do you live in a Marvel comic?

FermatsTheorem · 28/05/2018 20:32

Daimbars, please can you explain to me why people with penises are allowed in the women's pool (see Independent coverage from earlier this year) but people with vaginas are not allowed in the men's pool? Go on, give it a try. Do remember to show your working (marks will be deducted for simply asserting transwomen are women without any supporting argument).

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 28/05/2018 20:31

So you wasted police time to prove a point?

I expect that as the police were not called when people identiying as women were in the ladies pool, that the people identifying as men assumed that the police wouldn't be called if the people identifying as men went in the mens pool

All that 'what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander' shit and that!!

So the staff at the mens pool were definitely wasting police time...possibly you could email and tell them so

LizzieSiddal · 28/05/2018 20:22

I remember the complaints in January about Men using the women’s pond. Women’s concerns were brushed aside. As per usual.

Thank you for doing this MenFriday. You rock!!

I cannot wait for the councils response to this.

TerfsUp · 28/05/2018 20:21

waves to @IAmDavidLewis - nice to see you and I hope you are well.

PencilsInSpace · 28/05/2018 20:21

The wonderful speaking at WPUK in Basingstoke Flowers

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