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The Shame of Twitter

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Terfulike · 27/05/2018 01:36

Predictably I got blocked from twitter after Miranda Yardley's treatment made me peak peak trans

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Terfulike · 28/05/2018 20:18

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LangCleg · 28/05/2018 20:13

They are men becoming a man’s idea of what it is to be a woman.

You once said that AGPs confuse feeling sexy with feeling like a woman. The world's biggest penny dropped for me when you said it and I've never forgotten it.

And of course, the actual way to get women to accept you - if not as an actual woman but rather a welcome guest in women's society - is to make it clear you'll accept rejection as and when it comes.

TimeLady · 28/05/2018 19:13

They are men becoming a man’s idea of what it is to be a woman.

That pretty much sums it up for me. Good to see you here on MN, Miranda

Ereshkigal · 28/05/2018 19:11

Absolutely.

spontaneousgiventime · 28/05/2018 19:10

They are men becoming a man’s idea of what it is to be a woman.

Yes! You said in a sentence what it took me a paragraph to say.

mirandayardley · 28/05/2018 19:08

They are men becoming a man’s idea of what it is to be a woman.

spontaneousgiventime · 28/05/2018 18:59

It has to be though, Miranda, doesn't it? Because the closer they get to women, the further away they have to accept they are.

Totally agree. The biggest thing I see is how they dive at every stereotype going. Look at the vast majority of TIM's:- Faces plastered with make-up, heels, painted nails, dresses, stockings, exaggerated movement, etc, etc, etc. They don't try to look like your average everyday woman, they are a caricature based on everything we want to separate from.

MrsWooster · 28/05/2018 18:58

You lot rock. Not you, Christine, the rest of them.

Ereshkigal · 28/05/2018 18:55

It has to be though, Miranda, doesn't it? Because the closer they get to women, the further away they have to accept they are.

This is so true.

LangCleg · 28/05/2018 18:54

Trans culture is profoundly anti-woman. They have no interest in listening to what women say about their own lives as women.

It has to be though, Miranda, doesn't it? Because the closer they get to women, the further away they have to accept they are.

SmartBoots · 28/05/2018 18:53

This lack of interest that lots of girls have shown in careers in computing - well STEM in general apart from medical - is really coming back to bite us in the arse.

Sorry for being blunt - I don't how else to put it. It's been one of my bug bears for years now. But if women don't take a hand in shaping the future of mankind that this was bound to happen.

Pratchet · 28/05/2018 18:50

Babel: I also think Twitter transactivists do it.

mirandayardley · 28/05/2018 18:44

Trans culture is profoundly anti-woman. They have no interest in listening to what women say about their own lives as women.

Bowlofbabelfish · 28/05/2018 18:43

They don't look at the content of tweets. It's an algorithm being manipulated by transactivist

This is now illegal under GDPR though, isn’t it? Prejudice via algorithm is now forbidden.

So why is it still happening? It’d make an interesting test case.

FlippinFumin · 28/05/2018 18:38

I think we ought to go FERT hunting. Female Excluding Radical Trans. I think in the spirit of words and making them up and shit, we ought to just call them FARTs. We won't have to look very far.

spontaneousgiventime · 28/05/2018 18:19

As soon as I noticed it was written by SF I clicked off.

Ereshkigal · 28/05/2018 18:17

Christ. No words. Also linked on the Angels forum this delightful article from everyone's favourite mirror pecking budgie.

www.them.us/story/british-media-transphobia

spontaneousgiventime · 28/05/2018 18:11

Ereshkigal I truly wish people would read that forum. It's a cesspit of misogyny and hatred of women. Some of the stuff in there is enough to make your toes curl. The admin today, again is saying they don't want Angels ripped apart here. They need to moderate the hate speech towards women then we wouldn't post here about them, chicken fillets, how to hide your beard shadow and size 12 shoes are not really our interest.

Ereshkigal · 28/05/2018 18:06

Re Angels

Someone suggested that it would be a reasonable safeguard to ban people with a sex offence conviction from self ID to get a GRC. But obvs others disagreed:

Sex offences is far too broad an exclusion. You can end up on the sex offenders register for drunkenly slapping someone's backside. If an offender is a serious danger to the public then they need locking up in either prison or a secure mental hospital. In other cases it's just pandering to the TERFs.

Much empathy. Such womanly.

spontaneousgiventime · 28/05/2018 18:01

Popchyk I didn't get that far and after your post am pleased I didn't.

mirandayardley · 28/05/2018 17:53

Answer to the question ‘where did all the transgestites go?’

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Popchyk · 28/05/2018 17:46

I read that Pink News article linked upthread.

I got as far as pink miniskirt and fishnets and stopped reading.

mirandayardley · 28/05/2018 17:31

Oh dear. Christine is feeling sad.

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Pratchet · 28/05/2018 16:55

I absolutely adore you lot. Actually in the trenches with awful people attacking and still Grin

It's a breath of fresh air

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