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What a day for Irish women

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WhoGetsHeard · 26/05/2018 11:43

All indications for an overwhelming, resounding YES. The images of people leaving their 'I've Voted' stickers on the wall beside Savita's mural, the footage of people coming #hometovote, the vox pops on the radio of older people telling their stories of why they voted Yes. This isn't just about abortion rights. This is about the Magdalen women, the Tuam babies, the forced adoptions, the cervical cancer scandal... It's about women deserving better. An apology. A vindication. A promise for the future.

I am overwhelmed and so, so proud.

#Ta4Mna

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PermissionToSpeakSir · 27/05/2018 14:50

An important step in loosening Patriarchy's grip over women - it will resonate wider than Ireland.

Women's bodies are nobody else's business but our own.

So fuck off men in dresses (in the Vatican)!

oakleaffy · 27/05/2018 14:02

What a huge relief for the women of Eire....It is a woman's right to choose what is best for her.

RedToothBrush · 27/05/2018 11:33

WELL DONE IRELAND AND THANK YOU!

This morning has seen a political development with regard to NI and abortion.

The ECHR have ruled that NI law on abortion is in breach of Human Rights but no political party there tabled an alternative in Stormont because their party membership are generally against reform.

It must be noted that polling suggests that the majority of the public in NI is now in favour of reform. So the political parties are out of step with public opinion.

So the situation in NI has been deadlocked for some time.

May was forced to 'compromise' and allow NI women to get an abortion on the NHS in the rest of the country if they wanted.

But after yesterday, Ireland's vote will put pressure on May to go further. With Stormont suspended and NI effectively under direct rule there is an unique opportunity to do something that the majority in NI would support whilst their political parties are obstructive of the political consensus.

Penny Mordaunt (the current equalities minister ) backed by Amber Rudd, Maria Miller and Justine Greening (the last three equalities ministers) and others have called this morning to reform the law in NI.

Anne Milton has also called for a free vote on the subject. (This would untie May's hands somewhat with the DUP too)

There's also talk of adding an amendment to Domestic Violence Bill which would allow abortion in NI. I believe 140 women MPs have signed up to supporting it (Labour amendment led by Stella Creasy).

This could well also have political mileage because Jacob Rees Moog's Achilles heel is his position on abortion. May could take a gamble to help toxify him as the party realises it needs to be perceived as more liberal in order to win over younger voters.

Plus the government know they need to be careful with changing demographics in NI and the issue of abortion being one that could help unite Ireland too.

My point is that, thanks to the wonderful news in Ireland, the way forward may also be paved in NI too.

Lets hope that change is coming for all.

steven981 · 27/05/2018 11:09

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LightofaSilveryMoon · 27/05/2018 00:10

So very glad!

Republic of Ireland, huge respect!

PerkingFaintly · 26/05/2018 23:39

So happy for Ireland. Shedding a little tear seeing those results, district by district.

NeedsAsockamnesty · 26/05/2018 23:14

Ignoring the pp who thinks it is right for women to die from preventable pregnancy issues.

Waiting for NI and Gibraltar now.

FermatsTheorem · 26/05/2018 23:12

"12easmaes You and those like you have the blood of Savita Halappanavar, and that of countless other unnamed women, on your hands. And your self-righteousness will never wash it away."

Exactly that, a hundred times over Spudlet. Well said.

BeeFarseer · 26/05/2018 23:12

The only callousness I'm seeing here is from you, 12esmaes. Such a shame you can't see the bigger picture.

Congratulations Ireland! I'm second-generation English, with Irish relatives I've also had a termination for medical reasons. This whole thing has been very close to home, and I can't put into words how pleased I am for Irish women.

Moonkissedlegs · 26/05/2018 23:11

This is about the death of babies in the womb - Those who voted for this have blood on their hands. Disgusting.

You do realise that Irish women were already having abortions... Don't you?!

MoltenLasagne · 26/05/2018 23:09

I'm so relieved at the outcome - now we need to ensure the women of NI are shown the same compassion.

Spudlet · 26/05/2018 23:08

12easmaes You and those like you have the blood of Savita Halappanavar, and that of countless other unnamed women, on your hands. And your self-righteousness will never wash it away.

CopONNotLinkedIn · 26/05/2018 23:04

and more shocking that you have so little empathy with women. ''Disgusting''.

CopONNotLinkedIn · 26/05/2018 23:03

@12esmaes, not so, in countries where abortion is legal, rates of abortion go down so you are wrong.

Also, presume you are out there campaigning for the sort of world where women can stare at two lines on a stick and think 'I could cope with this on my own'. Easier to be a keyboard warrior I know. But if you are really motivated to reduce the numbers of abortion you could try and make the world a better place for mothers.

12esmaes · 26/05/2018 23:01

"Dads and Granddads - saying they were voting yes for the young women in their lives"

They care nothing for the lives that will be ended though do they. Shocking that people are so callous towards the unborn.

12esmaes · 26/05/2018 22:58

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CopONNotLinkedIn · 26/05/2018 22:28

It's good news for women!
It's great as well that British women were rooting for us, and now we're going to be rooting for the women of NI

The No campaigners may be revolted by the celebratory feelings today but 1) this is good for women, it's like women are being elevated from being secondary citizens, and 2) abortion rates go down when abortion is legal! so win win.

Room101isWhereIUsedtoLive · 26/05/2018 22:22

No real connections to Ireland, except for my one of my great grandparents coming from there.
But really really pleased with this result, it's been a long time coming but finally it has happened.
Stupid backwards laws will be repealed and women will no longer die as a consequence of hideous draconian laws.
Well done everyone, onwards and upwards!!

CopONNotLinkedIn · 26/05/2018 22:21

@rainbunny,

CopONNotLinkedIn · 26/05/2018 22:19

Simon Harris has gone up in my estimation massively.

boatyardblues · 26/05/2018 22:18

Yes, there were some lovely men on Twitter - including one who flew home from Buenos Aires. I was heartened the older men - the Dads and Granddads - saying they were voting yes for the young women in their lives.

Destinysdaughter · 26/05/2018 22:14

I was also v touched by all the men on Twitter giving their support to the this, it's heartening to know there are some good men out there who respect and love us.

FlaviaAlbia · 26/05/2018 21:56

Such a relief and a beacon of hope for NI.

So much credit is due to the campaigners who've been protesting since the introduction of the 8th and the women who shared their stories.

PencilsInSpace · 26/05/2018 21:50

I want to say a special thank you to everyone who campaigned for yes in Donegal. I'm British but in my youth I lived for a few years in north west Donegal and I still feel a strong connection for the place, so the 'no' knocked me back a bit.

It was an incredibly close vote there though, about the same as brexit. Your hard work made the vote that close. And as this was a referendum and not a first past the post election, every single person you convinced to vote 'yes' - their vote counted and added to this landslide.

Thank you and massive well done Flowers

Ineedacupofteadesperately · 26/05/2018 21:40

This is such good news. Thinking of Savita Halappanavar today.

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