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"Rage wanking" as remote rape

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bd67th · 25/05/2018 21:44

The context is this rather disturbing photo where a man has loaded a photo of a woman onto his phone and ejaculated onto said phone with the caption "This is your true purpose." The "crime" of the woman in question appears to be supporting the campaign to repeal the eighth amendment.

At first, I thought "ew, I wouldn't want to work at the phone shop when he takes that in for repair". Then I felt really quite disturbed, so I had a think about why.

I'm reading his defacement of her image with his semen as an attempt to degrade her. He can't degrade her in person through rape, so he defaces her photo with his semen and shows her (by publishing the photos) that he has done it. I think this could be called "rage wanking", because he didn't do it for sexual pleasure, he did it to degrade her, and it's on a continuum of "penis as weapon" male violence against women with rape at the severest end and "choke on my dick" at the least-severe end.

AIBU with my analysis? And AIBU in thinking this man would try to rape the woman if he had access to her? My gut feeling is that he would try it.

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AngryAttackKittens · 26/05/2018 01:04

Following on from that, is part of the reason men don't come in for that sort of shaming behavior (on top of misogyny ensuring that lots of people think women should be ashamed for lots of things) that people don't think it's possible to shame them into decent behavior, so why bother trying? Or is it more that it's not acceptable to threaten men in that way?

It's not that you can't use sex to shame a man, though it has to be in the "you don't get any" direction rather than the "you may at some point have had sex, or even just had female body parts, which makes you a slut, so feel shame" way that gets aimed at women. But it happens far, far less often and is generally considered to be bad form in a way that sexually shaming women isn't.

bd67th · 26/05/2018 00:58

wallisfrizz: There is no such thing as remote rape, don’t overuse the word.

You're correct. I am struggling to find words to express his intent and actions because technology is moving so fast and so people can apply technology to degrade someone faster than my understanding of language can keep up.

thebewilderness: They have all manner of websites set up for hate wanking women

Is this related to revenge porn?

as well as those fleshlight thingummys.

I'd always read non-realistic fleshlights (like the clear ones) as just a sex toy, never thought they were a problem. The disembodied vulvas though, they creep me out, and I'd always just assumed that it was similar to me not liking the look of realistic dildos, but maybe there's more to it.

terfulike: Anyway this reminds a lot about those voodoo dolls people stick pins in. A modern version.

But with an added sexual dimension and a crapton of misogyny. Did cunning folk send the poppets to the victim though? The way he published the images in such a way that she was sure to see them is another way in which this differs from private acts like pins in poppets.

The public shaming aspect makes me also think of: burning in effigy, scold's bridles, shrew's fiddles, stocks. Again, mostly used to silence women.

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Offred · 26/05/2018 00:26

Oh fuck this is Vonny!

What a sad, sad loser....

But YANBU in your analysis IMO.

Another example of a pathetic insecure man filled with shame and rage and insecurity projecting that onto a woman...

Honestly though he’s probably not going to meet vonny who is in Scotland? I think? But really? There is someone who thinks the only risk to be assessed is whether he might do this or something like this to vonny? Would you think this man safe to be around all the other women who are not vonny just cos he probably won’t get to vonny?

Terfulike · 25/05/2018 22:29

I honestly think it's so wrong to generalise about men or anyone.

Anyway this reminds a lot about those voodoo dolls people stick pins in. A modern version.

thebewilderness · 25/05/2018 22:23

They have all manner of websites set up for hate wanking women as well as those fleshlight thingummys.
"Women have very little idea how much men hate them." GG
Adult men often talk about the weird grudges they carry against girls from middle school who didn't even know they were alive.

WickedLazy · 25/05/2018 22:01

I wonder how many men really think like this Sad

WallisFrizz · 25/05/2018 21:56

He is hideous but he is an internet troll. As with most internet trolls you cannot compare what they do online to what they would do when confronted with the object of their hate/lust/whatever.

There is no such thing as remote rape, don’t overuse the word.

ReluctantCamper · 25/05/2018 21:51

YANBU.

the point of his action was not to derive sexual pleasure, it was an attempt to degrade and control the woman in question. It is absolutely on the same spectrum as rape.

WhatsGoingOnEh · 25/05/2018 21:51

What is wrong with men? Honestly. I am finding it so hard to respect them. They're so utterly ruled by their dicks.

PinkCherryBlossomTree · 25/05/2018 21:49

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