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Stephanie Davies-Arai. Transgender Trend

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therealposieparker · 24/05/2018 12:54

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R0wantrees · 07/06/2018 22:00

Crowdfunder suspension lifted.

twitter.com/Transgendertrd/status/1004698774743277568

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R0wantrees · 06/06/2018 12:36

Oliver Burkeman (Guardian)

twitter.com/oliverburkeman/status/1004152461815410690

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Sarahconnor1 · 01/06/2018 09:14

Oh well. At least this has reminded me to donate what with payday yesterday.

So thanks Pink news

R0wantrees · 01/06/2018 08:50

Anne Ruzylo, Venice Allen, Jennifer James, Linda Bellos, Olivia Palmer...

ChickenMe · 01/06/2018 08:38

Gosh she is a handmaiden and supports the term TERF judging by her twitter.
Never a mention of toxic masculinity being a problem, that men are the ones who have issues with "feminine" men and who are responsible for most violence in society whoever the victim
Nope let's blame "feminIsts" who are questioning things...

R0wantrees · 01/06/2018 07:55

Interesting to see where so much TRA energy seems to be focussed:

Mumsnet
WPUK
Transgender Trend
Twitter GC women and transexuals...

Last week, a number of commentators incl. Owen Jones highlighted the far-right as source of threat to people who are transgender.

Lowenna Waters The Independant, 'How the far right is attacking the lives of the transgender community - and what we can do to stop it'
(extract)
"Another key force fighting the right wing attacks on the transgender community is the tireless work of activists themselves, who fight day in and day out to challenge the status quo.

Activists and transgender people such as Jake Graf, Monroe Bergdorf, Hannah Winterborne, Lily Madigan, and Shon Fey all use their platforms to chip away at the negative propaganda.

Despite being subject to a barrage of abuse on social media platforms like Twitter, and some even reporting the receipt of death threats, their high-profile presence ploughs the furrow for younger gender non-conforming people, and gives them role models."

www.indy100.com/article/how-the-far-right-is-attacking-the-lives-of-the-transgender-community-and-what-we-can-do-to-stop-it-8369021

ChickenMe · 01/06/2018 07:28

Worrying stuff-really angry that there's a call to shut it down. Again-let's shut down alternative view points. Trans cult.

The fact people have donated says there is a need

As people on Twitter have said I would still want to give them the money privately even if they got shut down.

R0wantrees · 01/06/2018 07:09

Pink News
(extract)
"Trans rights campaigners have rebuked a “deeply transphobic” Crowdfunder page set up by a group of parents concerned by “the current trend to diagnose ‘gender non-conforming’ children as transgender.”

The activists are calling on the Department of Education to condemn the fundraising page, which is raising money towards providing schools with hard copies of so-called “Transgender Trend” resource packs and guidance on the subject."

www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/05/31/trans-activists-slam-deeply-transphobic-school-resources-crowdfunder/

R0wantrees · 31/05/2018 15:19

There's an account below of how the Transgender Trend School toolkit was received when released earlier in the year. It may give an insight into the opinions/motivations of some of those who are seeking to prevent the crowdfunder:

lilymaynard.wordpress.com/2018/02/15/ban-it-bin-it-shred-it-transgender-trends-new-guidelines-for-schools-the-activists-that-hate-it/

Stilettosandan0venglove · 31/05/2018 07:50

Yes, you're right, Toe It is shit that this measured, sensible organisation that calmly advocates for the rights of all children is being attacked like this. But it isn't surprising, it just should be.

WTF do people think is wrong with watchful waiting?

ToeToToe · 30/05/2018 23:52

Unsurprising, surely. Jennifer James & Posie's crowdfunders were met with such silencing tactics. As is anyone who speaks out about this.

This trans ideology is totalitarian - not one single piece of dissent, of disagreement, even amongst professionals, is tolerated.

This is so dangerous when it comes to the medical treatment of children - when anyone objecting to, or questioning, the now almost automatic pathway of drugs/surgery/sterility for young people who are gender questioning, is labelled bigoted and silenced.

I wonder for how long I will even be allowed to say the above words on Mumsnet or twitter.

Stilettosandan0venglove · 30/05/2018 22:45

R0wan that is shocking. Thanks for reporting.

R0wantrees · 30/05/2018 21:45

Transgender Trend crowdfunder Twitter update:
twitter.com/Transgendertrd/status/1001917332476874752

"Over the past 4 days we have faced a slew of libelous tweets and a campaign to derail our crowdfund campaign. Crowdfunder are rightly obligated to investigate reports but it has resulted in us being delisted from search engines for up to 3 days while they go through the process."

R0wantrees · 29/05/2018 10:32

Heather Brunskell-Evans asks question of Mermaid's trustee:

twitter.com/brunskellevans/status/1001391122919411713

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Baroquehavoc · 28/05/2018 12:06

I've just been reading the comments below the Guardian article. It seems that many believe it is impossible to support transchildren without taking away sex segregation. I think it is possible to be kind and considerate to transpeople without taking away much needed spaces for girls. But it appears that's problem and no other option is acceptable.

I assume that they are trying to educate the young into believing, but it may have the opposite effect. If more acceptance of transchildren/adults is their goal, I don't think they are going about it the right way.

Ereshkigal · 28/05/2018 11:39

Helen is constantly frothing.

AssignedPuuurfectAtBirth · 28/05/2018 11:05

Helen's frothing

R0wantrees · 28/05/2018 11:03

Guardian article concludes:
"The best way of providing support is, however, something that the two sides seem unlikely to agree on."

www.theguardian.com/education/2018/may/15/transgender-row-teachers-afraid-challenge-breast-binding

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R0wantrees · 25/05/2018 23:04

Tweet

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R0wantrees · 25/05/2018 23:03

Transgender Trend have launched a crowdfunder this evening to support the Schools pack.
www.crowdfunder.co.uk/transgender-trend-school-resources/?

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IsHalfTermOverYet · 25/05/2018 22:53

This is an excellent video. Very clear and informative for anyone new to this subject. Thank you to Stephanie and Posie.

thebewilderness · 25/05/2018 20:34

I thought free speech was allowed here (within talk guidelines)?

Only for potatoes. Not Feminists.

Ineedacupofteadesperately · 25/05/2018 20:01

Offred how weird they deleted your comment but not my comment which quotes your comment..... very strange. There's nothing wrong with your comment - it no way does it break talk guidelines & it's a really good point. Come on @mumsnethq - if you don't reinstate it suggests you're simply deleting posts that someone has complained about.

Not liking what someone says isn't a good enough reason to stop them from speaking. I thought free speech was allowed here (within talk guidelines)?

R0wantrees · 25/05/2018 18:52

Bowlofbabelfish
Michael K. Laidlow MD has linked a reference from the Endocrine Society 'New research in #JES shows that androgen deprivation therapy can "result in electrophysical changes in the heart".'

He has commented:
"So the puberty blocker lupron has been found to be associated with electrical changes in the heart which "might explain the increased risk of sudden cardiac death seen in these [prostate cancer] patients". And we're going to keep giving this to otherwise healthy adolescents?"
twitter.com/MLaidlawMD/status/999644654088826880

I understand that Laidlow wrote the article discussed on this thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/lgbt_children/3221502-I-am-Jazz-critique-by-an-endocrinologist

Bowlofbabelfish · 25/05/2018 16:58

I think that Lupron will be this generation of children's thalidomide.

I agree wholeheartedly. I work now in clinical trials and the barrier for treating kids with new drugs is so, so high. The consent procedures are governed by really rigorous laws (as they should be.) paediatric trials of anything, even something lifesaving like new combinations of cancer treatments are fraught with ethical difficulties.

I cannot think of a single other circumstance where such powerful drugs are given with such lax frameworks. I’m staggered it’s haplening and I do wonder who is pushing this agenda and why - it is going to be a massive scandal. Those poor, poor kids.

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