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Jeremy Vine show today will discuss Labour policy on self id and David Lewis

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Destinysdaughter · 23/05/2018 11:53

Well this should be interesting. According to Twitter, Linda Bellos will be on it. Anyone want to phone in?

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Melamin · 23/05/2018 14:03

That was a typical BBC mush.

It is all because we are stupid and don't like the poor, poor trans people and are nasty to them. We should let them have every thing they want so that they will be happy. Lie down on the floor women!! Let them trample you!!! We cannot know how much they have suffered.!!!!!!!!! They deserve it.

Helmetbymidnight · 23/05/2018 14:02

That was all over the place, wasn't it.

I think JV was trying hard to use the right language - he was far less fluent than usual.

'There's so much more to being a woman than genitalia.'
I've heard this a lot, but when pressed they never articulate what they mean.

Are there stats that show that suicide among trans is dropping since transitions became more wide-spread?

ScienceIsTruth · 23/05/2018 14:01

So bc we haven't all lived the queen's life and had her experiences having the prefix, 'trans', in front of the word, 'woman', is just like having the prefix, 'poor', 'rich' or 'young', etc.
So, JF is talking a load of bollocks, which is rather apt & not really a surprise!

Larryduff · 23/05/2018 14:01

waste of time, the AWS was barely touched on it was just a dig at feminists and completely missed the point. doesn't help when LB couldn't remember the word discrimination and then said trans were only coming out because it was trendy.

Melamin · 23/05/2018 14:00

And the suicide rate is falling - how can anyone possibly know when the statistics for the suicide rates are all over the place?

spontaneousgiventime · 23/05/2018 14:00

If we don't define women by their genitals and reproductive role, how do we define a woman? Crazy folk out there.

AbsintheFriends · 23/05/2018 13:59

And yet another phone call from a trans ally.

So - that's one TRA panellist in the studio, 2 lengthy phone calls from trans allies (playing TRA bingo - suicide stats, 'woman not defined by genitalia' etc etc)

one FWR supporter on a crackly phone line.

Poor.

Melamin · 23/05/2018 13:59

How else do you discriminate against women? Hmm

Lottapianos · 23/05/2018 13:59

'But I can't believe he called Hyde Park a ruckus when a TA was found guilty of assault'

Sounds like he may not have been entirely across all the facts. What a surprise Hmm

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Destinysdaughter · 23/05/2018 13:58

Mother of a trans man saying women aren't defined by their reproductive system. How else do you bloody define them then??Hmm

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JessicaJonesJacket · 23/05/2018 13:58

Ffs a call from a transman and a transman's mother. Will there be two calls from the other side?

Flomper · 23/05/2018 13:57

I have listened to the Wright Show and Jeremy Vine today on this and so far all the phone ins have been trans people. Do biological women ever get to voice their opinions anymore?

JessicaJonesJacket · 23/05/2018 13:56

Oh interesting that JV is asking about surgery.
But I can't believe he called Hyde Park a ruckus when a TA was found guilty of assault. No need to misrepresent it like that.

SwearyG · 23/05/2018 13:56

HIs description of Hyde Park is atrocious. A woman was attacked by a man. It wasn’t a confrontation between two “factions”. It was men trying to shut women down and resort to violence when they meet opposition.

spontaneousgiventime · 23/05/2018 13:54

TIF on now.

AbsintheFriends · 23/05/2018 13:53

Another 5 mins or so of discussion - phone ins next

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Destinysdaughter · 23/05/2018 13:53

Oh he's discussing the assault in Hyde park now

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Melamin · 23/05/2018 13:52

Is Jane Fae even in the Labour Party?

AbsintheFriends · 23/05/2018 13:52

I got the impression that JV was on the GC side too. And given that he's currently sitting in a studio with the giant narcissistic pain in the arse that is JF, if he wasn't before he probably will be by 2pm.

JessicaJonesJacket · 23/05/2018 13:51

I thought the Transparent clip was a bizarre choice but I guess it highlights that a transwoman can have a penis. Frustrating that JF tried to pretend that's not as relevant in the UK because of surgery options.

Lottapianos · 23/05/2018 13:50

Jane Faye is so frustrating. Jeremy Vine is a complete twerp too. And sad to say that Linda was disappointing. She really didn't sound on top of things today.

There may be some entertaining / maddening calls to come

LizzieSiddal · 23/05/2018 13:50

I think Jeremy may be on our side.

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Destinysdaughter · 23/05/2018 13:49

Agree this hasn't touched on the real issues at all

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spontaneousgiventime · 23/05/2018 13:49

Waste of time! It's over.

MiddleagedManic · 23/05/2018 13:49

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