Guess how I got suspended from the Labour Party?

LM claims to have a GRC

No you didn't. But James knew though didn't he? He know it was a stunt and that your gender identity wasn't really female because that was the whole point of his article!

Conjecture. One could say the same about any male claiming to be a woman. We know TRA people aren’t women, and they aren’t female... but... oh no we can’t argue that can we?

There’s no way to argue out of this one - David has shown the absurdity of the situation beautifully.

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Janice: funny how women can't decide what a woman is but transactivists get to decide who is trans

Do we know who was elected Women's Officer in Basingstoke? Any chance she is gender critical?

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Crossdressing man. Not a woman or trans woman. Schizophrenic.

Didnt LM say they had schizophrenia? (I hope i am not misremembering)
Why does the same assessment not apply? (Really asking)

I have a schizophrenic family member who has believed all sorts of things about himself (some awful) but it didnt make them true.

Maybe someone's done a study proving you can have a sense of humour or a sense of 'identity' but not both? (That might explain a lot)

If not they should! I've never seen an ounce of humour, the slightest self awareness or any sense of irony from any of them.

I've seen precious little evidence of humour - it's all ultra ultra serious.

Although Madigan seemed vaguely amused when Madigan caused TERFBlocker to self-combust on Twitter. Which is weird in itself.

Maybe someone's done a study proving you can have a sense of humour or a sense of 'identity' but not both? (That might explain a lot)

I gather that Milly LadAgain doesn't have a GRC, so why are they any different to David?

Mxyzptlk, thank you for the views you have given.

I still do not understand why some men are accepted as being valid for whatever Women's position it may be, anywhere; and yet, another man who attempts to do the same thing is punished!

There seems to be no coherent logic to this!

Well said. SMG's hackneyed old routine needs a rest. It's just dull.

It's a legal fiction, for goodness sake. Even then, exceptions can be made under the equalities act, and aristocratic titles inherited by men only aren't inherited by trans men. So, not for all purposes.

Are you a higher authority than the law?

Or - shock, horror! - she could be a citizen in a representative democracy with opinions about current and proposed legislation. Perhaps she might like to discuss those opinions and - shock, horror again! - plan to partake in political campaigning or activism with a view to getting legislative changes.

We haven't had a Year Zero in the UK, you know.

My personal judgement is that David is a genuine, authentic woman, on Wednesdays, and would be an excellent Labour official.

Who judges?

Self ID is self ID. Labour have made that clear.

Ps. Person B did not get included on an All Women Shortlist.
Person B was accepted to stand as Women's Officer in his Constituency Labour Party, just as Person A did.

Surely if SMG can judge David's gender - and ignore his own self-determined, self identified gender - then surely we can judge or question Madigan's self identified gender.

My judgement tells me that Madigan is not a real transwoman - just faking it to bring the Labour Party into disrepute.

SMG - why is your judgment allowed, but not mine?

No you didn't. But James knew though didn't he? He know it was a stunt and that your gender identity wasn't really female because that was the whole point of his article!

James is a thoughtful gender critical commentator who cares about this issue. Of course he would want to highlight bad policy and at least get people thinking about it.

No transwoman can do that.

Transwomen are not women, or female. They are transwomen.

'Where a full gender recognition certificate is issued to a person, the person’s gender becomes for all purposes the acquired gender (so that, if the acquired gender is the male gender, the person’s sex becomes that of a man and, if it is the female gender, the person’s sex becomes that of a woman).'

Just one question. Are you a higher authority than the law?

What is a genuine transwoman and how can anyone tell? Seriously, it must be possible to explain this.

SilveryMoon, I think there is no difference except that Person B spoke to the media about what he was doing, and some people in the Labour Party believed he was not genuine in his claim to be a woman on Wednesdays.
Had he simply applied and got on with canvassing votes, all would have been fine, imo.

Oh Lang... you're being sillllyyyy.

There are some people who would be prepared to do anything if it would be to their benefit. And the law won't necessarily stop them.

Let's get rid of laws! So much money could be saved and we can't stop crime anyway.

But it does show pretty clearly men are prepared to be trans if it would be to their benefit.

There are some people who would be prepared to do anything if it would be to their benefit. And the law won't necessarily stop them.