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Guess how I got suspended from the Labour Party?

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IAmDavidLewis · 22/05/2018 23:17

Well, one of the weirdest days in my life concluded with me receiving a letter informing me of my immediate suspension from the Labour Party. They believe I may have breached the rules by subverting the intention of All Women Shortlists, Women’s Officers or minimum quotas for women. Unfortunately, this does mean that my political ambitions are on hold for a while. I shall of course be continuing to self-identify as a woman every Wednesday, as that is my gender identity...

I have to say a huge thanks to @namechangeah for all her help, guidance and, more importantly, proof-reading! I wouldn’t have gotten to this point without it. I’d also like to thank everyone for their support today. I hope this has helped a bit.

And the Telegraph called me an “activist”! Achievement unlocked Grin

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SporadicSpartacus · 23/05/2018 07:29

I’m disappointed this thread hasn’t immediately become about prams and nail polish. It is Wednesday, after all.

merrymouse · 23/05/2018 07:26

I really hope this highlights the flaws in this policy. It’s not just that it affects women, it’s the wider problem of appearing to provide for a particular group but arbitrarily deciding who should be in that group without providing any criteria.

Isn’t that the kind of behaviour you would expect from the masons?

Beerincomechampagnetastes · 23/05/2018 07:22

Thank you for your stand David. We women have been trying to get attention on this for a while, we have had a few successes (the brilliant manfriday) but for some strange reason it really helps when a man sticks his head up. People listen more, somehow, just by being a man you are regarded as slightly less hysterical.
Even though Davina has rendered you in need of managing on a Wednesday.
I’ve send your article to our local councillor and he was very interested, he’s asked if I would be prepared to come in and give a talk on the concerns of gender Id issues for women to the other councillors in the area.
It may have helped to provide a platform.
Thank you for your help.

Floisme · 23/05/2018 07:21

Thank you for making me laugh and for showing up self ID for the farce it is. The timing couldn't be more perfect and if Owen Jones is in a rage then that is the icing on the cake.

I just cannot wait to hear the Labour Party's definition of a self defined woman.

Electraschild · 23/05/2018 07:18

Labour should be ashamed about this when they fawn over the foot stampers. David’s action has exposed their failure to think through this ‘policy’. It’s made my day!

BlackeyedSusan · 23/05/2018 07:17

As the meeting is on Wednesday, and they banned you no t on a wednesday, would you rock up and say that they banned a man called david lewis, but that can not possibly you as you are definitely a woman, david lewis.

Bowlofbabelfish · 23/05/2018 07:13

Well done! I was going to ask if you plan to appeal to make them define why and then I saw you had already said

‘Now with a suspension, the Party will presumably need to define what a “self-identified woman” is, in order to show that I am not one. That, I believe, is progress

Exactly. Lets see whatcthey come up with.

I am glad that there are principled decent men out there who are willing to stick their heads over the parapet for this. Slightly saddened that the women haven’t been listened to as well if I’m honest, but there you go.

Good luck with it. Wine make it so ;)

birdbandit · 23/05/2018 07:08

Thank you for fighting this with us.

As far as I am concerned how someone acts contributes more to their identity, than their words. So you my friend are most welcome into the woman hood.

Badgerthebodger · 23/05/2018 06:59

Hope you have a good day today David, enjoy your womanliness

NotARegularPenguin · 23/05/2018 06:48

Well thank god today is Wednesday. Please rejoin the Labour Party today under the name Davina.

UnexpectedItemInShaggingArea · 23/05/2018 06:42

Thank you @IAmDavidLewis. Truly, thank you. If only there were more men-except-on-Wednesdays like you.

TransplantsArePlants · 23/05/2018 06:20

Next step: Hosting an Annesty "Making Women History" (sic) event

SeahorsesAREhorses · 23/05/2018 06:18

You need to challenge the party and ask them to define self defined woman. How were you womaning wrong when Pippa Bunce can jump between sexes and advise women about women's issues when Pippa is womaning?

ConfessionsOfTeenageDramaQueen · 23/05/2018 06:18

@IAmDavidLewis David! If it is really you please accept my most heartfelt thanks for doing this, no doubt at some personal cost to yourself.

It occurred to me a while ago that the only way to show self-ID up for the nonsense it is is for men to step up and make a mockery of it. I just didn't think any would have the balls to.

Would you be willing to share the contents of Labour's letter to you? I cannot see any way they could have excluded you without admitting self-ID is nonsense.

Also how far would you be willing to take this? Would you be willing to wear a dress on a Wednesday and appeal? (I'm completely serious)

merrymouse · 23/05/2018 05:52

Now with a suspension, the Party will presumably need to define what a “self-identified woman” is, in order to show that I am not one. That, I believe, is progress.

Absolutely. They can’t just say that the political point you were making shows you aren’t trans as plenty of trans people oppose self ID.

(And also I don’t think you made it on a Wednesday).

lightthedarkness · 23/05/2018 04:34

Wow! The Labour party normally takes months or years before acting on allegations of anti semitism and complaints by women but for you David - an instant suspension! This must be their top priority at the moment.

Great publicity for a completely unsustainable policy!

womanformallyknownaswoman · 23/05/2018 04:05

No, he was standing against men who use power and privilege to undermine and attack the rights of women. DARVO. We see you, misogynist.

This!

your empathy and warmth read as far more "female" than the online postings of some of those that have made the grade of "female" for the labour party.

Though given the way they are treating you maybe they do read you as female and that's the problem….

That's what I was getting at with my recent post re felt sense empathy - you either have it or not and many of the MRAs and flying monkeys, in various guises, seem not to have. The Labour Party and woke bros are notable by their lack of this felt sense empathy for women - as many males in power

sorenipples · 23/05/2018 03:54

The ironic thing in my opinion is that were being female to be based on stereotypes, your empathy and warmth read as far more "female" than the online postings of some of those that have made the grade of "female" for the labour party.

Though given the way they are treating you maybe they do read you as female and that's the problem....

Bitchywaitress · 23/05/2018 02:12

Thank you David. If you have a wife/girlfriend I'm sure she is so proud of you now, as are we Flowers

OlennasWimple · 23/05/2018 01:53

Oh the irony that Labour have just confirmed that self-Ided transwomen can stand on AWS / as women's officers etc ...

Ereshkigal · 23/05/2018 01:47

Little Owen Jones has got a fucking cheek! "There's always been a certain type of man who use their power and privilege to undermine and attack the rights of women and minorities. David Lewis trolled trans people, one of our most attacked minorities. The commentators who cheered him on are a disgrace."

No, he was standing against men who use power and privilege to undermine and attack the rights of women. DARVO. We see you, misogynist.

AngryAttackKittens · 23/05/2018 01:37

Labour Party - How could anyone ever guess that if we made it easy for people to take the piss then they would? Who could have predicted this turn of events?

Also Labour Party - We're totes credible, us. Nothing silly about our policies.

Pratchet · 23/05/2018 01:27

Mama you're right! The only trans in the village

pombear · 23/05/2018 01:22

If anyone is more articulate than me and more awake than me - Darren on lbc is talking about David's stance and asking whether it's a serious point or not. Too late for me as need my sleep but if anyone's up....

ErrolTheDragon · 23/05/2018 01:21

How about we petition the Labour Party to either re-instate David immediately or similarly suspend everyone else who says they're a woman and is not convincing?

And whose claims women find very vexatious...