Guess how I got suspended from the Labour Party?

Jane Fae comparing the prefix trans to being a poor (woman) etc
Saying all women have different lived experiences.

Linda Bellos, 'the reason we need AWS is because of discrimination women experience now' 'not saying that trans men and women don't experience discrimination but this is different'

Oops sorry David not James.

Same old same old. Emotional blackmail. DARVO.

What's all this about how we'd be ok to have David as women's officer because of this (admittedly) awesome thing he's done?

David can't be woman's office because he is a bloke. Being a good bloke, even an inspirational bloke, still leaves you unqualified to be women's officer. This may be disappointing for you as you identify as a woman on Wednesdays but the need to appoint someone with lived experience of being an adult human female trumps your identity.

I would love to but have a meeting! Hoping to surreptitiously follow here.

Jane saying what he is doing ( David) will result in trans women getting beaten up on a Saturday night!

Oh god here we go - James is responsible for people being beaten up.

Jane Fae characterises David's actions as 'mischevious' 'mean spirited' and what he is doing will 'result in people getting beat up on a Saturday night'

I can't call in. Is it a phone in show?

Linda Bellos is going to be on.

Jane Fae and Linda Bellos!

Jeremy Vine Linda Bellos and Jane Fae will be on.

As for the LP, they are technically in breach of both the EA and GRA, for allowing self-ID on AWS.

It is not yet law, yet they are basically doing their own thing, which is technically breaking the law.

Yeah, I know nothing will happen, given the affected group are merely women and all. Sucks to be an actual female in this world.

I personally will aim for Beardy Tuesdays, and it really does not matter that I don't have a beard, just that I am someone that identifies as having a beard. On Tuesdays. Perhaps every third Tuesday, just to keep people on their toes and suck up to me.

JV always has music on his show.

I think we've lost the LBC guy with the last caller mother of a teenage boy struggling with gender. What struck me about her was how isolated and desperate she sounded.

And I want to know why if Labour can apparently speed up its due processes to a few days when it feels like it, why it hasn't chosen to feel like it in the hundreds of cases of blatant anti-Semites including Holocaust deniers and those threatening violence.

I fucking hate hypocrisy.

Desperate to get rid of those who stand up for women's rights; equally desperate not to get rid of anti-Semites.

Could the women-hatred and Jew-hatred be any more obvious?

I believe you though David

Listening to R2 avidly.

What is this music?

Jeremy Vine show:
JV intro "Labour shortlists may allow those who self-identify as women on them, so those born as men"

Good to read different perspectives yes, but Morton's piece shows he fails to grasp that the proposed amendments to the Gender Recognition Act are ripe for misuse. He appears to hold to the idea that men are honourable, would never take advantage of the bloody great big holes you could drive a horse & carriage through, that any wrong behaviour in (e.g.) public toilets would be dealt with. But by whom? Where is the cavalry that would come to assist? Does he not know how reluctant women are to report sexual 'nuisances'? What's the likelihood of a piss-taker/pervert being arrested & charged? Naive man.

They believe I may have breached the rules by subverting the intention of All Women Shortlists, Women’s Officers or minimum quotas for women.

Said the pot to the kettle.

Thanks for standing up for us David

And now I would like to draw @MNHQ attention to this thread, and their beloved 'talk guidelines'.

David has stated, even on his Womany Wednesdays, that he will not change attire, pronouns, or beardly status.

Yet, numerous MNers have repeatedly on this thread, 'misgendered' him, deliberately or inadvertently, despite his pronoun preference.

Will this thread become the dreaded swiss cheese of 'deleted due to talk guidelines'? How are you going to tell between the deliberate 'misgendering' and the accidental 'misgendering'? Enquiring minds want to know.

'Misgendering', it is an unworkable policy, much like the Labour Party's "feel like a woman" stance.

Why is it that Labour can fast-track your suspension in less than a week for the crime of applying to be a Women's Officer whilst claiming to be transgender sometimes, but they couldn't find the time to expel Ken Livingstone in over two years? And instead let him just honorably resign?

According to them, the whole reason that suspensions for anti-Semitism have taken so bloody long and in most cases are yet to be dealt with is because due process must trump all other considerations.

But not, apparently, when someone is taking the piss out of self-id.

Then offended TRAs must be mollified immediately.

Sod offended Jews, of course. Labour clearly couldn't give a shit about us.

SarahAr
Please can you outline or point me towards the 'robust policy', the criterion on which everyone is to be judged? It needs to be applied equally, what if someone else who self-identifies as a woman is similarly disbelieved, how would one appeal? What are the grounds on which self-belief and perception are to be proved to others and wasn't self-ID proposed to end the idea of having to prove one's gender identity to a panel? The concept of presenting evidence for belief has been deemed by Labour to be intrusive.

I am of the opinion that we cannot have objective law - law that applies equally to all people - based on the subjective - i.e. individual belief. We have to be able to hold the legislature to account and prevent abuse. This similarly applies to political policies, particularly those of a party which aims to form the legislature.

Can you outline how you believe we can achieve this with self-ID please.

Wonder if the Guardian will open comments on their open commenting platform Comment is Free?

Guardian article is an opinion piece by James Morton.
"(Morton) is the manager of the Scottish Trans Alliance, which leads the Equal Recognition campaign for Gender Recognition Act reform in Scotland."
I think its good to hear from different perspectives.