Guess how I got suspended from the Labour Party?

because there aren't actually any men or fake trans women applying to be on Labour all women shortlists.

How do you know this?

Everyone on this forum knows you don't have a female gender identity.

I would like clarification on whether this would exclude him from being nominated for this post. I don't know whether I have a female gender identity - would I be excluded from this position?

Everyone on this forum knows you don't have a female gender identity.

Tad transphobic? If David says she’s a woman on wednesdays then you have to accept that. Otherwise you’re just a bigot. Gender identity is about that indefineable feeling isn't it? You’ve said that quite a bit. As well as we don’t get to define how other people feel?

I’m afraid if David says she’s a lady on Wednesday then she’s a lady on wednesdays.

Objectively, how can you tell if someone is a fake transwoman or a real transwoman?

In terms of AWS, a question you only need to ask in the bizarre wold of Scaremongery Transphobia.

Everyone on this forum knows you don't have a female gender identity.

That’s rather the point of it.

The Labour party knows you don't have a female gender identity.

Ahhh but they didn’t did they? Until he told them. Up until then they accept a bloke saying he’s a woman on wednesdays as if it’s the most regular and normal thing.

It’s a fantastic bit of work. With not a single raised voice, no threats, no violence, David has thrust this whole thing into the spotlight. Just like ManFriday - polite, civil protest. It’s fabulous and it’s got people talking. This is the best of British civil protest.

And no ones afraid of the issues being discussed are they? Why on earth wouldn’t they welcome debate and awareness?

Unless people wanted all this to fly under the radar?

SMG But it is happening elsewhere not that it ever would happen. Here's one recent example www.therepublic.com/2018/05/08/lt-mexico-fake-transgender/

Men lieing to get something. Who would have thought it?!

Really? I just read that back boaty it doesn't seem particularly cross to me. Would you prefer me to have decorated it with a few and ? 🌻 and 🌸?

Would that make it look less cross?

I thought it was more that the Labour Party has now become the sole arbiter - aka gatekeeper, and we know how TRAs hate gatekeeping - of who does, and does not, have a genuine gender identity. Which, of course, is not self-ID at all.

The Labour party knows you don't have a female gender identity.

But they didn't until he publicised it - they'd accepted his application.

And I can't believe SMG claims to know Mr Lewis's gender ID better than he does - how very transphobic and bigoted.

Supermatch

Spectacularly missing the point there

At the point at which they accepted his nomination, the Labour Party knew nothing of his motivation, other than what he told them. They gave not the shiniest shit. They knew one thing: that he was male. They knew that, and yet they thought that entirely irrelevant to the job at hand and were prepared for him to supersede someone female.

Really good they've clarified their position. Now we know. Now all those people who didn't have a clue about this know that a man, for whatever reason, is eligible to take a woman's job

1. Got an awful lot of people talking about how ridiculous the notion of self-ID is.

Which is good - and probably why SMG is so cross.

because there aren't actually any men or fake trans women applying to be on Labour all women shortlists

Objectively, how can you tell if someone is a fake transwoman or a real transwoman?

You sound quite cross SuperMatchGame.

Thing is Mr Lewis, you know you don't have a female gender identity.

I know you don't have a female gender identity.
Everyone on this forum knows you don't have a female gender identity.
The Labour party knows you don't have a female gender identity.

In the real world everyone knows you don't have a female gender identity, because there aren't actually any men or fake trans women applying to be on Labour all women shortlists. It only happens in your bizarrely constructed world of transphobia.

You have however succeeded in doing two things:

1. You have prompted the Labour party to clarify that genuine trans women, with or without a GRC, are welcome to stand on AW shortlists.

1. You may have ended your career. Assuming you had one.

So not entirely a waste then.
(With reference to point 1 of course).

Oh, someone beat me to it. I've just bought a subscription so this was my first share.

Gaahhhh.... David Lewis really hasn’t ‘abused’ or ‘misused’ anything at all. He has played exactly by the self-ID rules.
The Rules ARE THE PROBLEM, not him.
Self ID-ing is exactly and only that.
Clue’s in the name, outraged Labour Party people. DL’s motivations for self ID are completely irrelevant and unknowable by anyone else. Thats why self ID such a shit, dangerous idea especially when it puts men into women’s spaces, opportunities for representation etc etc. Like I don’t know, being a political party Women’s Officer.
HTH Labour.

Done it, YAY! www.thetimes.co.uk/article/woman-on-wednesdays-activist-suspended-nqh6lhx6c?shareToken=de3df2186608d19a79032a4b6caa0473

Oh, I missed that you'd got a working one, no idea why mine was different. Never mind!

Thank you! Can read it now.

That's what I did, it's evidently different link in mobile v app for some reason. Or maybe because it's new.

It'll probably be in tomorrow's edition.

Meanwhile, a richly deserved suspension

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/labour-suspend-local-party-chairman-over-emily-thornberry-beheading-tweets-rlwzk3wm8?shareToken=88c9bd195e395e518463bb3831dc9d67

Errol, I get sharetokens by clicking the share by email icon, then copying & pasting the link from there, if that helps.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/woman-on-wednesdays-activist-suspended-nqh6lhx6c?shareToken=a73be90f751db5f371b040fa35b2c914

‘Woman on Wednesdays’ activist suspended

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/bdc4770e-5ea0-11e8-a5a8-017dcfd37dc1

Hm, that doesn't look like a sharetoken. The piece is new, I don't think it's in the main app version I usually use, that's from the mobile version.

If I knew how to post with a share token I would.