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Deflection - as an anti-feminist act

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LaSqrrl · 22/05/2018 09:06

On another thread, *AngryAttackKittens" asked:

If we're suggesting threads I just posted on the tshirt thread that maybe we need a group discussion about the tendency for some women to identify the thing blocking women's progress as being other women not getting with the program/letting the side down rather than men/the system actively blocking women's progress. It comes up in a lot of different contexts, that idea that the real problem is women not doing activism/life perfectly, and I think it would be an interesting topic to thrash out, but can't think how to frame it in terms of starting a thread. Someone who's better at titles than me could have a go?

In my opinion, the tactic is very much a "look over here, don't look over there" tactic. Meaning, we are onto something. Every single time some male, or libfem, says "this is way more important, why aren't you focusing on that?" it usually means, "shitfuck, the jig is up, they are endangering male domination in this area!"

It's pretty much a red flag, and to (not) focus on that area really, the one they say you should not concentrate upon, focus on their 'agenda' as to what is important to women's liberation.

Patriarchy is founded upon reversals. So when one of their representatives (MRAs, libfems) says "don't go there!" you know damned well, you had better be there.

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AngryAttackKittens · 22/05/2018 09:28

It's not just deflection though, it's specifically "well if other women wouldn't do X, which makes me/the rest of us/the cool girls look bad..."

It's all over the tshirt thread, and we have a few commenters who do it every time the toilet issue comes up. Well I'm not scared, why are other women so prudish, it's because of you women who don't want to change your mooncup with men around that we can't achieve equality, etc. It's a very specific type of derail that only works if you're a woman, or claiming to be one.

LangCleg · 22/05/2018 09:20

It's absolutely a dead cat strategy as first described by Boris Johnson and that Tory strategist bloke Lynton Crosby.

This is what Johnson originally said:

There is one thing that is absolutely certain about throwing a dead cat on the dining room table – and I don’t mean that people will be outraged, alarmed, disgusted. That is true, but irrelevant. The key point is that everyone will shout, ‘Jeez, mate, there’s a dead cat on the table!’ In other words, they will be talking about the dead cat – the thing you want them to talk about – and they will not be talking about the issue that has been causing you so much grief.

LaSqrrl · 22/05/2018 09:15

"Shit, we've been rumbled."

LOL Fermats, ain't it the truth! Grin

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FermatsTheorem · 22/05/2018 09:10

"Why aren't you focusing on this?" = "Shit, we've been rumbled."

So true! As they used to put it on the Trump threads, "Look, a dead cat!" It's a silencing technique. It pops up all over the place.

LaSqrrl · 22/05/2018 09:06

Tagging @AngryAttackKittens

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