Is this really a feminist board?

TERFragetteCity
Nothing to see here, just some good old fashioned policing of women's thoughts and actions...
Is that all your own work, or did you get a friend to post it so that you could get a screenshot?

thebewilderness
Page 3 contains the definition of who the trans umbrellas covers.
Correction:
Page 3 contains a definition of who the trans umbrella covers from one particular organisation.

Yambabe
Hi Damn. Hope you don't mind me addressing this particular point? Not at all. Happy to discuss with anyone who doesn't start off with the assumption that I am mad or bad.
I may be slightly against the tide here although I've seen others agree with me, but personally I would like you and those who follow you to have all these things. I would like you to be free from discrimination and hate but I believe that anything like that that you experience will be likely to come from men, not women.

"Slightly against the tide"?? More like trying to swim up the Niagara Falls!! But in general, I'd say you're right. The hatred that I experience on Mumsnet is not matched by anything I have come across in the real world. I may have been amazingly lucky, have only come across two instances of overt transphobia from women in ordinary life.

One of those was just slagging off trans people in general, and I found out later that she had no idea that she was "discussing the issues" with a TS! I guess the fact that I wasn't wearing my frilly party frock, six inch stilettos and wonky wig must have confused her! (PS I haven't actually got any of those things .... !)

I'll happily stand alongside you for access to your own safe spaces.
This is one area where you and I disagree. My reasons for disagreeing are purely pragmatic: for one thing, I cannot imagine local authorities or shops spending resources on toilets and changing rooms for

Whatever they vote this time , like the scots referendum the same issue will come up again in The IR

If the Irish people vote No I am not at all confident the chance of another referendum will come along any time soon. The Scottish referendum was supposed to be once in a lifetime- but they kept quiet about it being the lifetime of drosophila melanogaster.

I think it would be more difficult to have a rerun of this referendum.

Whatever they vote this time , like the scots referendum the same issue will come up again in The IR

I am a lesbian feminist and have been marching against FGM clause 28 and various other issues all my life

when the headline news story is about a 13 year old girl being raped and forced to marry against her wishes in Pakistan

lest we forget the poor woman who came over to England for a termination and died , it should be up to each individual woman to come to her own conclusion , and live with the consequences after

Sardine - absolutely. Religion at its patriarchal finest.

Bertrand, sorry that your daughter went through that, just awful. Did she get justice?

I was with my daughter as she was giving statements to the police about the man who hit her. She was telling them all the things he had said to her - and the officer said “Ah yes, the old “I didn’t do it and I was provoked” line”

For the hard of thinking, the reason that women can't have abortions in Ireland is becasue of religion. The reason Savita Halappanavar died is becasue she was denied life saving medical treatment, because of religion. The reason that women all over the world suffer and die because of lack of access to aboriton, and in some countries are imprisoned when they miscarry, is due to religion. The reason that children are forced to carry pregnancies that are the result of rape to term, often suffering severe damage and even death as their bodies are not ready to bear children, is because of religion.

Please, tell us again, how women have no idea how that feels.

Oh I believe that alright Mad. But how many years into the marriage did you reveal the "real" you? 10, 20 years?

Just catching up and read this in response to a woman talking about how the medical profession has a long history of ignoring, minimising, disregarding "women's issues" - the poster said:

"And I know this is a bit whatabouty, and two wrongs don’t make a right, so forgive me for that, but it’s always striking me when treatment access is demanded...... massive wait times for female complaints are so common it’d be a joke (if it wasnt a tragedy.) 8 years I think on average to be even diagnosed with endometriosis."

And the reply was:

"That is due to GPs failing to recognise the symptoms.
Not quite the same issue as GPs refusing refer because of their "religious"principles (i.e. illegal discrimination). And definitely not the same issue as people actively campaigning for people to be denied access to the possibility of diagnosis — a particular problem in the case of young transpeople."

On a thread supposedly about how feminists on here are not talking enough about repeal the 8th!!! I don't know whether to laugh of cry. Is this answer trolling, due to a total lack of understanding / ability to understand "women's issues" / or something else?

How mind-bendingly crass! I think it must be a joke?

Anyway, will continue to catch up.

4th rule of misogyny: Women's opinions are violence against men thus male violence against women is justified.

You still haven't answered my question, why are you here?

And Mad, did you notice my reaction after the thread. Felt uncomfortable so needed to laugh with Rufus to lighten it. You'll never be able to think like a woman.

LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!

A familiar refrain

"Or was it planned as a propaganda stunt: "Let's wind up some young hotheads until one of them snaps — making sure we've got it on video, ready to splash across every medium we can get it into"?

Blaming a woman for a man's inability to desist from assaulting her?

I see

And there you have it the classic MRA Victim Blaming Trope:

^"She made me do it, if she hadn't done/said/looked/been there.."

Indeed it would have been better for all concerned if it had never happened but the blame for it lies squarely on the shoulders of those who tried to prevent the lawful meeting of women (and ironically trans women) and rallied the 'hothead' troops with cries on SM of 'punching/killing TERFS'.

Wouldn't it have been better for all concerned if this incident had never happened?

Yes. That would have been achieved by the six foot plus male bodied wolf not punching the sixty year old female bodied mclachlan to the floor

"You don't fool me Mad"

You doing that all by yourself. See you after half-term.

"Mad, you left the thread for an hour after your threat/warning."

Sorry, had to sort dinner. I'll be back to oppress some more women later.

And also Mad, your post 2 mins after the threat/warning when you realised you'd gone too far, was to tell us not to worry, you're only 9 stone after all, so quite harmless. You don't fool me Mad, seen and heard it all before.

Or was it planned as a propaganda stunt:

Are you implying that a. The fault lies with the person who was assaulted, not with the person who was convicted in a court of law for assaulting them and b. That being verbally ‘wound up’ is any kind of justification for physical assault?

Yeah well if mad doesn't explain then I obviously owe terf a huuuuggge apology

So ill do it now...in case i forget later

terf i am honestly sorry for misreading the relevant posts...you are obviously much more aware than me and i apologise if my misguided attempt at explaining caused you any further problems this evening

And now for wine