Is this really a feminist board?

So we will tell you off for not talking about something whilst also not talking about it ourselves.

Right. Got it.

weird. I don't see your name on the Repeal The 8th thread either poopsqueak

Maybe you were just lurking too?

Thinking about why this board focuses so much on trans issues.

A vicious circle has been created. TRAs invented the 'cotton ceiling', got Michfest shut down and told feminists on the Women's March that they shouldn't wear 'pussy hats'. Mainstream feminists started trying to talk about it. They organised meetings. TRAs responded by phoning venues to get the meetings shut down. Feminists wanted to talk about it even more. TRAs responded with violence (Hyde Park) and physical obstruction (Bristol). Hundreds of feminists who might have concentrated on other issues were now focused on the trans issue. Then TRAs started trying to get Mumsnet shut down and reported gender critical feminists for 'terrorism'. The cycle just goes on and on, consuming ever more time and energy.

No it doesn't bother me because I would have thought most posters on here would be in favour of the repeal of the amendment and I would not expect those able to vote but as yet undecided which way to vote to look for further information here.

Sealioning isn't about starting threads, it's about posting repeatedly on a thread task for a response about their questions which could be easily answered if they read and engaged. It's not about starting lots of threads.

I didn't notice lots of threads on other feminist topics being started yesterday - can you give an example of the ones you mean? They should still be fairly recent on the list.

The OP doesn't seem to want to discuss the repeal vote. It would be a good topic for discussion and I'm sure pretty much everyone here is aware of it and has their fingers crossed too. If you want to discuss it start a thread with a title referring to it and what you want to discuss about it.

^^ Sorry, that was meant to be RepealThe 8th thread

GaspingShark

Have you posted on the Real The 8th thread?

It seems you care but I don't see your name. That's a bit like me

Forgive me if I've overlooked it

The day I listen to someone telling me what I should or shouldn't post on a forum message board will be the day the sun falls out of the sky. #freewill

like literally yesterday? someone accused the OP of 'sealioning' or 'sealing' or something like that. As in the act of starting up new thread to push their threads down the board.

OP, within one page, someone is trying to steer the agenda away from Repealing the 8th again.

I stand with the women of Ireland and I hope the result is a positive one.

This is the feminist board - feel free to start any thread, or post on any thread you like.

We will do likewise.

When does that ever happen @poopsqueak? Really?

Go on, start a thread now about a topic that is important to you wrt feminism.

I really don't recognise this 'shouting down' idea. I post widely on MN (under another name) and FWR is where the most healthy, detailed discussion happens.

Where's your post about it, OP?

Not this post, which is intended to criticise 'us' but the one of the kind you think should be here.

You too are one of us, yet you haven't even done it yourself - or link to where you have if I've misunderstood.

All is not lost. Why not post about it now? Not on this thread, which is just an argument, but a new thread. What do you want to say? What should we know? I know it's happening but I'm not in Ireland so I don't know the details.

But then you get accused of pushing certain issues down the pile?

do you? when has this happened? which of your threads have people accused you of pushing down the pile?

Here here. New to mumsnet and this whole trans thing has been a massive turn off. Nothing more than a bunch of schoolyard bullies imo

So start a thread if you have issues you want to discuss.

I agree OP. I feel other aspects of feminism are drowned out and shouted down on this board by a few loud voices.

So start a thread if you have issues you want to discuss.

It is that easy. Hope that helps.

But then you get accused of pushing certain issues down the pile?

I've never read Butler but I have read Greer. I've also campaigned in the early 80s against the 8th amendment. If that helps.

Wishing you all the very best for Friday. Here's hoping the 8th amendment is quashed.

Ahh! So we need to rank all the feminist concerns in the world, then deal with them in order? So no talking about issue #362836 until #362835 is sorted out?

No, I want to talk about the upcoming changes to GRA and self ID. Because it affects so many things that impact women. And Children. And safeguarding.

And people seem quite desperate to tell women to shut up and not talk about it. Including you on most of the trans threads I’ve been on.

It’s just ‘shut up women’ again. No. It’s inportant, and women want to talk about it, if they don’t, they don’t participate in the thread.

To all the posters complaining about the content of threads here, you are responsible as much as anyone else for not posting on topics that you think are important.

I agree OP. I feel other aspects of feminism are drowned out and shouted down on this board by a few loud voices.

I do read this board, but I try to read others as I find it quite unbalanced and unfriendly.

Here here. New to mumsnet and this whole trans thing has been a massive turn off. Nothing more than a bunch of schoolyard bullies imo

Yes. It really bothers me.

And

Other things bother me too

Mumsnet has been under attack by transgender advocates for weeks making goady posts about themselves to drive all other issues down the page. How is it possible people have not noticed this?

Because some people are also one note posters - they just like to pretend that they are not.