Is this really a feminist board?

My god, the language in your posts, Damnthat. It's unbelievable. "Just stop and be nice, and then all will be well..."

No, I don't think we will "just stop" while transactivists re-define women, and police our language. We're not in 1984 yet.

Damnthatonestakentryanother2 Oh wouldn't you just love that? Women shutting up I mean? How does NO sound? We will not shut up, not today, tomorrow, next week, next month, next year, years ahead. Get used to it, you are not getting our spaces.

Nothing gets radical feminists talking more, than being told to shut up about something

The activists in masks punching/intimidating women does little to shut us up either.

Anti TRA when they are being anti-women is both (for women) and not (anti trans)

It's not feminism though, that would be for women. This is anti TRA.

I haven't read the thread - yes a MN crime....

That said, no I haven't been active on here about the 8th.

In all honesty it's because I do t think there is anything to debate - and that's what I come here for when I feel I need my views sharpened/tempered by some very insightful posters.

It's a fucking shameful piece of legislation.

I don't need to discuss or debate it.

What I have been however is active about it on other social media and pulling no punches.

So in the response to the OP I'd say there are probably other women like me who haven't engaged/talked about this on MN - not because we don't care, but because there's nothing to say other than to get behind the bigger SM campaigns to repeal the 8th and demonstrate a weight of opinion that way.

And yet again, feminists being told what they should and shouldn't talk about...........................

TERFs are feminists too, just the cunty, sweary, shouty and unherdable sort!

( the usage of cunty on these boards has been a great boon to me personally I might add!).

It's so very tiresome - Mad isn't the first, won't be the last. OP isn't the first, won't be the last.

It was posters like the OP who got the board changed from Feminism/Women's Rights to "Feminism Chat" - because the words women's rights were just too off-putting or something. And Dittany was just too scary for them, so Dittany had to go too

The OP was spot on.

Flip the thread and it's turned into a spat about who was mean.

@GaspingShark this is not a feminist board, it's the TERF board. There may be genuine issues with TRA, I don't actually care, but the TERF response is massively disproportionate.

Imagine if all this fury could be ploughed into something that would actually benefit lots of women...

MadBadDaddy Blowing raspberries to posters on an adult message board? Really? That's you in my ignore bin, I like to discuss things with other adult women not tantruming toddlers.

Can you not just participate in the ongoing conversation, MadBad?

Why must you come and shout My nappy's dirty, somebody change it NOW! on every single thread?There are perfectly good discussions going on and you could try some topical input for once? Thanks in advance.

I wish the board was still FWR, tbh 'Feminism and Women's Rights.'

Any 'feminism' which undermines women's rights isn't feminism. And (imo, others may well disagree) there may be women's rights issues which women who are uninterested in 'feminism' (though they can't actually be disinterested parties whether they like it or not) may want to discuss.

It ruins otherwise interesting threads for me.

I just want to say - it's not that I don't understand you; it's that I don't care if I understand you or not.

Me neither. I'm sure the navel gazing is all very interesting to the person who's contemplating their own navel, but for me? Meh. Impossible to convince a narcissist that other people don't care, though, if you tell them that it goes through the NPD filter and comes out on the other end as "you hate me with a burning passion and want me to die? that's what you said, right?"

Dude, no, you're just boring me.

Excellent illustration of the cliche of trans women identifying as women but with us

(Assume you meant 'not' with us?)

I get sick to the back teeth of threads being vandalised by narcissism that is not coming from women. It's just graffiti. Halt and derail every single fucking time. But you don't understand me - the cry of the male from time immortal. I just want to say - it's not that I don't understand you; it's that I don't care if I understand you or not.

If you dont like the board why bother with it

I really don't understand

I dont have a dog so im not on the dog house

I dont go on the telly addicts board to coronation street threads and tell them off for not discussing Supernatural

Im bored witless by the infighting on the EU board...so i dont go on there anymore

Men could, if they wanted to, eliminate most of the need for feminism tomorrow. They just choose not to.

(Said dignity twice - but it's an important one)

I'm sick of the NAMALTing and NATALTing all over the board too. Well said, the last few posters.

Women's rights, dignity, health, safety, dignity are always under attack from so many directions - and now even the bloody definition of the word woman is being redefined by MEN. Well, fuck that, frankly.

And YY to the posters above who point out that simply by being woman focused the board is feminist. A supportive ear to someone suffering, practical advice on stuff - it all centres women. And that is feminist.

Fuck only knows what is at the core of liberal feminism

Fear. The fear that if they go too far men will turn on them. Hence the appeasement.