It never happens. Yet it happened.

Antifascists seem to be precisely the type of people who are first to embrace fascism with open arms...

Slightly off-topic :
I thought the start of that news report sounded very "cosy" as if trying to minimise what was about to be said.
Is that a normal way for an Australian news report of a murder to begin?
Would it begin that way if they were talking about the sportsman's brother?

Antifa in general are a problem that society is going to have to grapple with at some point. It's a culture that actively encourages violence on multiple fronts.

Will she be sent to a male or female prison if found guilty? Genuine question.

AGP is the elephant in the room in every conversation about trans issues. Mention the elephant and someone will be along to call you a bigot and try to get your comment deleted shortly

It's not just AGP these days (as I have said before) it's a bunch of mainly younger anarchist/Antifa oriented and/or simple misogynist little pricks who are jumping on this bandwagon because they hate women. These are the ones who use slurs like 'truscum' and I suspect the ones at protests (when they are not sending their handmaidens). I think they are just as dangerous because they are often the ones telling children and young people that it is the evil state apparatus that is keeping their hormones and surgery from them...

AGP is the elephant in the room in every conversation about trans issues. Mention the elephant and someone will be along to call you a bigot and try to get your comment deleted shortly. As the rules of misogyny say, basic pattern recognition skills are evil when they inconvenience men.

I'm going to do the dangerous thing of stepping away from statistics and venture into anecdotes. Keep that context in mind.

In real life I have properly known (as in recurring socialisation with) four MtF trans people. Of that four, three were highly self-sexualising and their female identity was heavily tied up with their sex life. There were explicit fetish bases for their cross-dressing and female identity. The fourth was a painfully shy and timid person that I knew threw work. He was physically a delicate-looking person and very softly spoken. Later on, he came out as trans and adopted a female identity.

Of these four, the last one has never, to my knowledge, said boo to a mouse and I think (and hope) that he's happier now in his new identity.

Of the three remaining, one has served prison time for beating up a man who was going out with the girl he was having an affair with and is what I would generally describe as a "fucked up individual." The second has criminal convictions and though I don't know the details I know he has separately assaulted people. The third has never directly assaulted anyone as far as I know but is a very duplicitous individual who has lied maliciously on multiple occasions for a variety of unpleasant and manipulative reasons.

This reinforces, to me, the need to highlight the separation between actual gender dysphoria sufferers and the Autogynephiles. The latter need not be harmful to others, but seems to often reach degrees of expression where it is.

Jade www.9news.com.au/national/2018/05/21/15/56/brighton-le-sands-dylan-walker-sister-in-court-over-boyfriend-death

[[https://fairplayforwomen.com/transgender-prisoners/
Half of all transgender prisoners in the UK are sex offenders or dangerous category A inmates.]]

This is relevant because of the potential danger to women prisoners and the skewing of crime statistics.

@KataraJean

Write a complaint. I have. The word "sister" has a specific definition and refers only to a female person. The reporter knows that the criminal was not a female person. This is false reporting, a breech of ethics and policy. It wouldn't be ok if it was any other minority group being falsely associated with a crime, it's not ok when it's women. You can be respectful to the persons belief system by using neutral terms such as 'sibling', there's no reason to lie by saying 'sister'. The only reason to report it the way they have is to deliberately misrepresent the truth which is not acceptable and it against the law and their own policies.

Manly Sea Eagles though.

Also, there is an issue with people changing gender (and name), thus making it difficult to find out about their past.

Indeed. Like the media darling whose name rhymes with Harris Bees

So basically this is a person born male, but transitioned, who has beaten another man to death? And it is reported and recorded as a ‘she/sister/woman’ who did this?
And it is not acceptable to question this?

What grounds do female-bodied people have then for seeking sex-based protections, if the reports and the statistics suggest that ‘women’ are just as violent?

It's not drawing a link between trans people and crime.

It's drawing a link between males and crime.

I feel like I have said this a million times by now.
Male violence is the greatest human rights crisis the world has ever known.

I can't discuss crime statistics? This is a problem because it's a frequent claim by trans activists that trans people are a highly at-risk group. Being able to show that both this claim is dubious and that MtF trans have, for example, a high rate of sexual offence, are really the only way of disputing that. It is not right if one group can make claims and another group cannot challenge that.

This exactly.

Also, there is an issue with people changing gender (and name), thus making it difficult to find out about their past.

Of course "it never happens" if we can't even talk about it.

I hope you're not drawing a connection between trans people and crime. KateMumsnet has just been on the What would it take to peak trans the world thread saying that that is not acceptable.

I can't discuss crime statistics? This is a problem because it's a frequent claim by trans activists that trans people are a highly at-risk group. Being able to show that both this claim is dubious and that MtF trans have, for example, a high rate of sexual offence, are really the only way of disputing that. It is not right if one group can make claims and another group cannot challenge that.

It's not that all trans people are violent. It's that a very specific group (which comprises the bulk of the trans activist community) gets included in trans.

That there is no evidence to suggest that male pattern offending rates decrease post transition is one of the most important objections to self-ID. How can we not discuss it?

Males will never change gender to abuse women and children...nope never.
www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/487086/Child-rapist-changes-sex-before-moving-in-with-unsuspecting-mum-and-her-child/amp?__twitter_impression=true