Bad feminist :(

(Other opinions are available but) it seems to me that the ability to be genuinely pleased for other people, and to want to be part of a celebration of love and family, is something that women have more often than men, and perhaps, instead of deriding it as silly, we ought to be proud of it.
I didn't watch it myself. I'm a chorister, I don't need the Royals in order to see a wedding.

Ha ha ha upstart!

I agree on both counts re;

I think the monarchy represent the worst display of revolting inherited privilege and wealth. And because I think marriage is outdated patriarchal nonsense.

I also really hate all weddings in real life and suffered through my sister’s recently (so did she, she feels the same).

I watched the ceremony live on you tube. I also cried at particular points; the gospel choir singing stand by me etc.

The politics of it interests me (and affects me emotionally). It is not the same set of emotions that I feel about people that I know who get married and having to sit through the entire performance.

BUT, loving weddings, liking to look at dresses, having a cry etc.... enjoying all or any of those things? I doubt that says much of value about your political beliefs and I’m totally sick of this recent thing of ‘you liked a twitter post so you ARE a certain thing’....

People are inconsistent. You might object ideologically to, for example, fathers ‘giving away’ brides, but feel it’s lovely for your dad to do that for you in your wedding.

Who you are, what you are and what you do. Separate parts of you. Not always consistent with each other and that’s normal.

I prefer to think about the ‘why’ rather than try and self censor or guilt trip myself.

Zara Philip's maternity dress and coat were lovely too.

I spent the day out, it was lovely, missed the whole shebang. Came home late and had it rammed down my throat, I went to bed. No, no need to cut up the card, we just need a republic then none of us will be subject to it.

Alteratively, maybe Amal just likes a nice yellow frock and, in her line of work, doesn't get much opportunity to wear one?

Yes - that is a bizarre post.

I didn't watch it as I was baking cakes for a party at the time (wearing a pinny over a dress so I suppose I lose IQ points for that)

I have been catching up on the dresses. I liked Amal Clooney's and loved Victoria Beckham's.

I didn't watch it but three pics of Harry and William popped up on twitter, one of them as little boys and two that must have been at their respective weddings, looking at each other with such love.

It makes me want to cry to think of them losing their mother and growing up without her when I see them looking at each other like that. I have two boys.

For any kids, losing their mother so young is a tragedy.

In fact the maleness and patriarchy part seemed strangely absent, despite the military show, etc. Almost as if everyone enthusiastically acknowledged its presence, but dismissed its authority.

Yes, I think that's exactly it.

Oh the guests' outfits are the best bit camper. The men's suits as well as the dresses - I'm partial to a bit of tailoring too.

hmm, realised that I haven't checked out what the guests wore. I'm actually considering purchasing a copy of hello to take on holiday during half term if they have a nice photo spread. plus my MIL and her ex-pat friends will bite my hands off if I turn up with that.

My name is reluctantCamper. I am a feminist who likes looking at dresses.

Its not like i would actually turn up to detention anyway

I went shopping yesterday too - it was lovely and quiet. I'm a republican, atheist feminist but do feel a bit guilty for having a look at the frocks on bbc news app. Hopefully that just requires detention rather than full re-education??

DidoAndHerLament

I don't think you're alone. There are several threads in the same sort of vein.

I wasn't the slightest bit interested, just turned it on while I was having coffee, and ended up watching almost all of it. With a similar reaction to you. Followed by a bit of bafflement.

Perhaps it was the dynamic. The bride was the focus, along with her mother, contrasting with the lack of Diana, we had the female Monarch, and the women guests seemed far more important than the men, there was a woman speaker. It felt very female focused, to me.

When the Dean was conducting the wedding, I was thinking about the patriarchal nature of the entire thing, but, somehow, the essence was nothing like that.

In fact the maleness and patriarchy part seemed strangely absent, despite the military show, etc. Almost as if everyone enthusiastically acknowledged its presence, but dismissed its authority.

I watched most of it because I love weddings. Not so interested in the celebs. I come from that rare beast, a functional family. I was happily married, as are my DBs, DSD, DUs and DPs. Weddings make me cry in a happy way. I got all misty eyed remembering my own wedding day, walking through the fields to the church with my DF in the sunshine.

Glad to see I'm not the only one. I've been a bit anxious about being a bad feminist ever since I got kicked out of my local group for having sex with men - though that was many, many years ago.

I'm a staunch feminist, atheist and republican and I watched and enjoyed the wedding.

Like Flo, I was mainly in it for the frocks, but I thought the gospel choir was fabulous, the American preacher was both hilarious and quite moving, and the whole thing was much less traditional than I was expecting.

Be at peace with the fact you enjoyed watching bits of a wedding.

I get that sense of national pride when I go places like the Natural History Museum, or look at my local Norman church.
Its not nationalism. We aren't taking the credit for it.

Alteratively, maybe Amal just likes a nice yellow frock and, in her line of work, doesn't get much opportunity to wear one?

midge

Depends what you were shopping for

Diy, pizza and beer .....me, so i reckon thats lots of points

(Not competitive at all)

Opiate for the masses. The so-called 'royal family' are just there by privilege of birth, based on the historical collection of violent ancestors. Not exactly a special class of people when viewed that way, especially seeings they live off the public purse.

I was so seriously disappointed with Amal Clooney. She is supposed to be a savvy HR lawyer, but excelled herself at being arm-candy and traded away all her IQ points. No, if you are engaging in outrageous displays of femininity, you have lost the plot.

On that front, yes, I perhaps lost all feminist cred.
However, you cannot dismantle the master's house by using his tools.
I stand by my disappointment.

I've only heard bits and pieces on the radio, but I gather that MMs family are thoroughly batshit, and seemed to be doing their best to ruin it for her. I heaved a little sigh of relief for her when it was all over.

It feels like a progressive move. Harry was able to marry the person he chose, despite facts about her which 80 years ago in similar circumstances meant a choice between remaining in the royal familiy or marrying.

next step a same sex marriage...

I quite liked it, from a feminist POV.

She walked alone up the aisle with two boys behind her holding her veil.

Her future FIL leant his arm for the last bit, but didn't "give her away" - he just accompanied her to Harry and then went off again.

It felt as if it balanced all the pomp and circumstance with the intimate, which was lovely.

And I usually DGAF about the Royals!

If I get +1 point for not watching, how many deductions for going shopping instead? I figured it would be quiet.

remember

Yes it was funny seeing all the men with small children out and about

Dh and i were out FINISHING OUR PUB (i may have mentioned it..its in the garden, its a shed with a bar) and it was virtually empty everywhere!!

Best...... Shopping.......Trip...... EVER!

I don't think he gave her away - they didn't do the "who gives this woman to be married to this man" bit iirc. He just accompanied her and had made a public statement about how he was doing so to welcome her to the firm family.