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Jamiem80 · 19/05/2018 01:07

Probably going to get shot down massively here but a simple question clearly there is a lot of hate for men wanting to be women, but nothing about women becoming men. Do you also frown upon this or is it ok and for what reason?

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Baroquehavoc · 21/05/2018 14:42

Crikey, we are being told time and time again that we need to have robust debate to avoid being an echo chamber of hate. I'm glad the likes of huffsoy come along to give us a masterclass in reasoned debate.

FermatsTheorem · 21/05/2018 14:38

Blimey, this is quite the narcissistic meltdown, isn't it? It would be pretty terrifying to be in the same room with in RL, but online, it's actually extremely amusing to watch.

Nasty skanks, feminists are evil, genetic women deserve to be taken less seriously and paid less than men (BTW, I thought we weren't allowed to use phrases like "genetic women" because that was... transphobic), hormonal women on the rag, "you trolling witches did this" (ah yes, the abuser's cry through the ages - she made me do this by saying no). It's like a mad scientist's AI misogynist program run amok. You couldn't make it up.

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 21/05/2018 14:35

Just gonna put another

Wow!!

Bowlofbabelfish · 21/05/2018 14:31

Let's hope your fears come true to every last one of you nasty skanks

Now really this needs punctuation or it’s a ‘Sigh No More Ladies’ job.

Will would be rolling in his grave.

spontaneousgiventime · 21/05/2018 14:29

OOOOOOOOOO I've never been called a skank before.

spontaneousgiventime · 21/05/2018 14:28

We haven't had a flouncer unflounce for a while. I've got a load of bedding on the line, will our flouncer finally flounce before or after it dries? Bets...

LangCleg · 21/05/2018 14:28

LOL! nasty skanks! Deary me, we're in full-on narcissistic rage now, aren't we?

huffsoy · 21/05/2018 14:27

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huffsoy · 21/05/2018 14:25

@ToeToToe
Ok Paul if you say so

LangCleg · 21/05/2018 14:24

Is it wrong of me to get a little frisson of warm joy every time we get a flouncer?

I just honestly laughed out loud. It's just as well I don't believe in heaven since I'd never get there.

But yes.

Absolutely no insight at all into own behaviour. Always a perfect demonstration of exactly the concerns women have. They do an exact QED for us and have no idea whatsover that is what they've done.

ToeToToe · 21/05/2018 14:22

Huffsoy...a poster on a mission - a mission to prove that transactivism is a men's rights movement. As we've all said all along.

huffsoy · 21/05/2018 14:22

Oh but woman are not safe from trans woman, oh the outrage, oh you can't change gender, our kids are being punished for calling them he.

Kind if things a transphobic spew out and this is what's being plastered all over the forum by bigots and transphobes

spontaneousgiventime · 21/05/2018 14:21

huffsoy If it wasn't for feminists you would be using the men's toilets. Grow up!

huffsoy · 21/05/2018 14:19

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Rufustheyawningreindeer · 21/05/2018 14:10

Wow!!

Thats all, just wow!!

spontaneousgiventime · 21/05/2018 14:02

But this proves to me that genetic woman deserve being not taken serious by men and get paid less than men

You do realise this is admitted misogyny don't you?

Bowlofbabelfish · 21/05/2018 13:58

It's not a threat it's a promise to go after your advertising so you won't have a forum because all you lot have done is troll me since I got here.

That’s been tried. Knock yourself out. MN has about 12 million unique users with a high proportion in the sort of ‘middle class with a fair amount of spare cash to spend’ category. Women account for roughly 70% of all household spending including groceries, household goods and also things like cars, insurance and holidays. Advertisers know which side their bread is buttered. We drive their revenue. You don’t.

The threats, the hyperbolic language and the lack of self control are all very telling. This is what male abusers do. They don’t like it when women say no to them.

huffsoy · 21/05/2018 13:54

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huffsoy · 21/05/2018 13:53

It's not a threat it's a promise to go after your advertising so you won't have a forum because all you lot have done is troll me since I got here.

spontaneousgiventime · 21/05/2018 13:51

Have people got screenshots of this? Yep.

ToeToToe · 21/05/2018 13:47

Yes, Bowlof - no matter how oh-so-reasonable the conversation starts out, it ends up like that - with threats and abuse. It's text book.

busyboysmum · 21/05/2018 13:46

[huffsoy Mon 21-May-18 13:33:51
You know what I am fed up of being trolled and talked down to by some bigots

Maybe you are a scientist but you are not a endocrinologyst who knows how male hormones in woman can effect them.

Most ftm take hormones grow beards and get muscles and can do as much harm as any man.

So instead of debating with hormonal woman who are on the rag I am going to campaign against mums net so it hurts their pocket.

You trolling witches did this, because this is how you welcome new members.

Pathetic]

Have people got screenshots of this?

spontaneousgiventime · 21/05/2018 13:46

huffsoy One day you'll come up against a real transphobe...

OldmanOfTheWeb3 · 21/05/2018 13:44

Probably going to get shot down massively here but a simple question clearly there is a lot of hate for men wanting to be women, but nothing about women becoming men. Do you also frown upon this or is it ok and for what reason?

I'd say the question itself is wrong for me. I don't frown upon men who choose to live as a woman. That's their choice (so long as they're adults). So equally, I don't have a problem with women who choose to live as a man (for whatever that means).

The things I'd say we nearly all object to here, are the impositions upon others and the harm done to children. For the former, that's mainly the autogynephile set which by definition are men. For the harm to children, I think you'll find we condemn that regardless of sex. Indeed, I've pointed out myself on a few occasions that young women are suffering in even greater numbers than young boys. (Referrals for young girls are nearly 11 times higher than for boys. Mainly due, I believe, to women having tighter gender roles and being more affected by social pressure).

Bowlofbabelfish · 21/05/2018 13:42

So instead of debating with hormonal woman who are on the rag I am going to campaign against mums net so it hurts their pocket. You trolling witches did this, because this is how you welcome new members.

Is it wrong of me to get a little frisson of warm joy every time we get a flouncer?

Every time. Six, seven posts on average I’d say, the mask slips.... et voila! This one is particularly good with the references to being on the rag and hormonal. I may just pop the cauldron on if anyone fancies a cup of tea?

Standards of debate are low with this one.

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