Trans women

Honestly, it's always like this after a wedding, drunken fights over nowt.

I'm beginning to think there is an absolute necessity to use the words actual/ity and real/ity multiple times in every post.

Some people seem to really believe in made-up shite and need reminding.

Nogods
There are plenty of sensible transexuals who recognise that their extensive surgery still doesn't make them a woman.

Most Ironic Username Award goes to...

Maryz, how nice to see you on here again.

Yes - it's absolutely bonkers.

NoGods - womanhood isn's a fucking club you can join, as long as we let you in - you either are born a woman, or you aren't. Stop this fucking nonsense.

@maryz was there a need to use six "actual/actually'" in one paragraph. That was painful to read.

If you are requesting access to a group that you aren't in, whether on the grounds of mental health or otherwise, it is a request. The answer can be no.

I notice that you seem only to be referring to the kind of person who has a diagnosed mental health issue and will have full surgery to resemble the opposite sex as much as possible. These days that is a very small percentage of those that identify as transgender, most of whom don't have extensive surgery or radically change their presentation.

What was that wonderful sentence? Framing women's compliance as essential for men's mental health is abuse.

People who refuse to take no for an answer are not safe to b around.

How many more times can one be so wrong on a single thread?

I think they are going for a multi thread record.

It's not a case of just "wanting" to be in a group @Assassinated this is a proven mental health issue. They don't just think oh wow look at those women over there, I like their hair/clothes (re Rachel) let's try and do that and see if they'll let us in their group!!

You missed one massive use for it in your list... Sex, for pleasure not just reproduction.

Of course I didn't miss it. I was waiting for you to maintain that's what women are for.

@datun there is no need to speak to me in such a patronising way.

How many more times can one be so wrong on a single thread?

Who knows Maryz. I do wonder when people say you can change sex, swap sex organs and that the vagina has no purpose and isn't an organ whether they are like that chap who thought you could stop yourself menstruating, like you stop yourself urinating. And if the woman couldn't hold her blood in until she got home, it was just plain ruuude.

But I imagine it's more to do with the fact that pretending there is no difference between the sexes means that there is no reason men can't be women. And dogs can be cats.

@datun there is no need to speak to me in such a patronising way. I'm aware of what a vagina is for. You missed one massive use for it in your list... Sex, for pleasure not just reproduction. Which funnily enough a neo vagina can be used for, so they got one part of it down to a tee eh?

It is not acceptance whatsoever and if you're not accepting you're apposing and what is apposing? Anti... Trans.

We have been aware for some time that transgender advocates consider women's rights to be transphobic, and that like all other men they assume that if we are not serving them we are opposing them.
It appears to be completely beyond their comprehension that Feminists consider it logical and reasonable to put women and girls right to safety, privacy, and dignity, ahead of any males desire to be accepted as something they are not.

Oh ffs, I've just realised.

We are back to the new definition of vagina as "a hole for a man to stick his penis into" aren't we?

When I think of all the angst on here about whether or not to tell children that Father Christmas, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy aren't real, and yet some people are still saying it's ok to tell children than they can change sex

It's bonkers. No-one can actually change their actual sex. Surely even the most radical of radical trans activists doesn't actually think that anyone can actually change their actual sex (regardless of what they say, surely they don't actually believe it).

People don't get to be in groups related to a specific aspect of their humanity on the basis of their wants. See Rachel Dolezal for an example.

It's not splitting hairs! Good grief.

The vagina is an organ. If facilitates the transport of sperm, babies and menstruation. A woman conceives via the vagina. It is self cleaning, muscular and can stretch to the size of a baby's head.

It has a purpose. A purpose that translates directly to the propagation of the species.

What on earth do you think it's for Nogodsnomasters?

Well there you are then. "I'll support you masquerading as one of us but you'll never truly be a part of our community/group". I personally find that appalling. It is not acceptance whatsoever and if you're not accepting you're apposing and what is apposing? Anti... Trans.

Who said you could change your sex organs?

Of course you can't. You can get a plastic surgeon to make you something similar in shape and possibly appearance to a penis or a vagina, but it won't function as a penis or a vagina therefore it isn't one.

I mean, I can make a penis out of playdough. But it isn't a penis. Human biology 101.

Nogodsnomasters once again you lack crucial background information.
Its a thinking flaw to assume that what you know is all there is to know, and all you need to know.

Reality has a well known transphobic bias.
We are just the messengers, d00dbro. We did not give you gender delusional dysphoria.
One of the cruelest things transgender advocates and gender clinics have done is to lie to young dysphoric males about how they can change their sex, all the while knowing it is not humanly possible to do so. It is evil and they need to be stopped.