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Ok, Amnesty International is straight up trolling women now

130 replies

wishiwassizeeight · 12/05/2018 16:13

They’re hosting a Women Making History March and guess who’s hosting it?

mobile.twitter.com/shonfaye/status/993446574498963457

Shon, who gloatingly told a woman recently to ‘enjoy your erasure’.

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huffsoy · 21/05/2018 11:18

I hate to brake this to you but since half of you are law abiding citizens, or at least I hope you are

The law is simple it states that trans woman are woman and that's why there is the gender recognition act which most of you probably have not heard of.

She has just as much right as any of you to represent any organisation or cause

R0wantrees · 21/05/2018 11:08

Govt. report discussed in Independent:
"Hundreds of vulnerable women, predominantly from Eastern Europe, being supplied by trafficking gangs into residential properties to be sexually exploited by British men, report finds"

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/sex-trafficking-industrial-scale-prostitution-pop-up-brothels-appg-mps-a8360756.html

"Sex trafficking is taking place on an “industrial scale” across England and Wales as the government’s strategy for tackling the issue fails to deliver, new research claims.

MPs called for the criminalisation of paying for sex after research found so-called “pop-up brothels” – premises rented for short periods of time to sexually exploit women – were widespread, with hundreds of vulnerable women, predominantly from Eastern Europe, being supplied by trafficking gangs into residential properties in order to be sexually exploited by British men.

The inquiry by the All-Party Parliamentary Group (APPG) on Prostitution and the Global Sex Trade found the practice was being enabled by “prostitution procurement websites” such as Adultwork, and driven by a minority of UK men who pay for sex...." (continues)

wishiwassizeeight · 21/05/2018 06:40

Shon hasn’t silenced us. We are still here. We are not going away. We will continue to call out Shon’s misogyny and unsuitability to speak on behalf of women.

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R0wantrees · 20/05/2018 17:12

Article in Gay Times, 'Shon Faye silences transphobic critics with empowering speech at Women Making History event'

(extract)
"Despite controversy surrounding her involvement as host for the Amnesty event, Shon Faye has silenced her critics, and paid tribute to trans people around the world who have lost their lives.
Opening her speech, Faye made reference to the abuse that she had suffered for agreeing to host the event – there was even a transphobic change.org petition calling on her removal which garnered over 2,000 signatures." continues...

www.gaytimes.co.uk/news/106636/shon-faye-silences-transphobic-critics-with-empowering-speech-at-women-making-history-event/

R0wantrees · 18/05/2018 10:28

Shon discusses the reactions to being compere of the Amnesty event during the Novara Media interview.
Discussed on this thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3251869-Shon-Faye-Ash-Shankar-review-of-Gender-quake

R0wantrees · 17/05/2018 16:43

So even though thousands of people, mostly women, have protested Amnesty

I think that it may well be dismissed as an example of transphobia.

Just as the responses to some of the comments/tweets etc by LM, SF, IW etc may be collected together as proof by volume of escalating bigotry.

Sometimes the context is lost.

BobbinThreadbare123 · 17/05/2018 16:27

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HaroldsSocalledBluetits · 17/05/2018 16:21

I am slightly amused at the irony of Amnesty ignoring a petition.

This is a disgrace though. Who are they going to get for next year? Benny Hill?

Picassospaintbrush · 17/05/2018 15:58

Direct debit - cancelled

wishiwassizeeight · 17/05/2018 15:57

So even though thousands of people, mostly women, have protested Amnesty via this petition, they’re still allowing this unpleasant misogynist to host?

Right you are Amnesty.

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Picassospaintbrush · 17/05/2018 15:52

"whether anyone actually cares what Germaine Greer has to say anymore."

A lot more than that bunch of children.

IdentifiesAsMiddleAged · 17/05/2018 15:47

AsAProfessionalFekko

I emailed Amnesty direct and they confirmed SF is hosting

Wonder why they are keeping it on a need-to-know basis?...

AsAProfessionalFekko · 17/05/2018 14:39

I had a nosey about the event on the booking page and the event Facebook page.

No mention of this person, and they weren't replying to questions about it on the Facebook page (just to other Qs though - not that there were many tbh).

SuitedandBooted · 17/05/2018 13:48

Good point AsAProfessionalFekko

AsAProfessionalFekko · 17/05/2018 11:52

I wonder if the other headliners at this event are aware of the controversy?

SuitedandBooted · 17/05/2018 10:54

There is a petition calling for Faye's removal as host, - it's been linked on this thread, but no harm in doing it again!

www.change.org/p/amnesty-international-uk-the-removal-of-shon-faye-as-host-of-amnesty-international-uk-s-women-making-history-event

R0wantrees · 17/05/2018 10:16

"On this episode of TyskySour Michael Walker is joined by Ash Sarkar and Shon Faye to talk about the clusterfuck that was Channel 4’s GenderQuake debate and the state of trans rights in Britain, everyone’s favourite salted meat and whether anyone actually cares what Germaine Greer has to say anymore."

novaramedia.com/2018/05/14/the-ciscourse/

wishiwassizeeight · 17/05/2018 05:12

Oh ffs. Soooo depressing that Mumsnet are censoring women for speaking the truth.

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Pemba · 17/05/2018 04:42

Oh I see my post (only my second ever in the feminism section) has been deleted. I said something derogatory about a certain person, based on things they have done/remarks they have made, not on their gender status. And I used the pronoun 'they'. I wonder which was so offensive as to cause my post to be deleted? Or are transactivists above any criticism now?

How ridiculous. I don't appreciate the prissy wimpishness, MNHQ.

IdentifiesAsMiddleAged · 16/05/2018 23:15

"I will be accepted as a woman'

Yes, and monkeys will fly out of my butt

KatyaZamolodchikova · 16/05/2018 23:13

www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/mar/21/twitter-not-protecting-women-from-abuse-says-amnesty?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Don’t know how to make it clicky, but here’s a lovely link to AI talking about twitter being unsafe for women to voice their opinions, in March, this year. I thought you might appreciate the —hypocrisy— irony.

PlectrumElectrum · 15/05/2018 14:46

Slight tangent but this article from the guardian about AI & their problem with misogyny gives a wider context to their views on women/women's issues etc.

Link

R0wantrees · 15/05/2018 11:44

All this evidence, that TRAs, AI, hate women.

I'm not sure the evidence is collected as well as it might be.

AngryAttackKittens · 15/05/2018 10:47

If you truly believe that you're accepted as a woman everywhere you go then try asking out a straight man and see how that goes, Shon.

LaSqrrl · 15/05/2018 10:37

All this evidence, that TRAs, AI, hate women.
And yet we get policed on pronouns, in case we offend.
Bollocks.