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The erasure of lesbians by the transcult - 'How to have lesbian sex with a transwoman' NSFW

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OrchidInTheSun · 11/05/2018 09:48

This is an article explaining (graphically!) how a lesbian should have sex with a person with a penis. So a man.

www.autostraddle.com/how-to-have-trans-woman-lesbian-sex-with-a-penis-414839/amp/

This is part of a series called Lesbian Sex 101: "Employment of the term “lesbian sex” in this post uses “lesbian” as an adjective to describe sex between two women or people who identify with that experience, regardless of the sexual orientation of the two people involved."

So basically, emphatically not lesbian sex, given that lesbian sex is sex between two biological women who don't have penises.

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sexnotgender · 11/05/2018 13:20

Why don’t all the trans lesbians just hook up with each other? Then they can have all the penis lesbian sex they want.

FermatsTheorem · 11/05/2018 13:16

Another giveaway is that strangely, almost no-one is pressuring straight women like me to go down on transmen's vulvas. Or pressuring straight men to go down on transwomen's lady-penises. Just lesbians being targetted by male bodied individuals. Not men. Not women by female-bodied people.

numberseven · 11/05/2018 13:13

That’s unlikely to happen as the kind of TIM that calls themselves a ‘lesbian’ won’t want another ‘lesbian’ with a dick. They just want to fuck real women with vaginas.

...and unlike women, they're allowed their preferences.

loveyouradvice · 11/05/2018 13:01

I'm falling further and further down that rabbit hole....

I am so glad I am not a young lesbian right now - seriously scary.....

And wow was that article self-obsessed - could NOT believe that there was absolutely zilch about understanding your partner and what they like - all about communicating their needs!

HotRocker · 11/05/2018 12:59

I am a lesbian with a vagina and I’ve had sex with other lesbians with vaginas. Can I have my ’I am a real woman’ badge now please? I can pin it on my dungarees.
Or do I not count because of my cis privilege?

ReluctantCamper · 11/05/2018 12:55

I tend to think men trying to tell women what to do are best dealt with by being ignored where ever possible, so I opened the article, ascertained that was what was happening, and closed it again.

It does mean I know don't know how to have lesbian sex with a transwoman, but I think that's a cross I can bear.

terryleather · 11/05/2018 12:48

Said it before and I'll say it again, as many TIM are heterosexual they want to have sex with women, but a bi or heterosexual woman is not validating enough of their chosen gender identity esp for AGP TIM.

Despite how it is currently being spun everyone (including TIM) know that lesbians are same sex attracted not same gender attracted so if a lesbian will sleep with a TIM, well that TIM really and truly must be a woman and he gets the ultimate validation.

waves at Twitter...

PositivelyPERF · 11/05/2018 12:44

I bet the men that are so quick to say 'live and let live' will start paying attention when the 'Lesbian' porn they search for features two penises, some five o'clock shadow and precisely zero vaginas.

That’s unlikely to happen as the kind of TIM that calls themselves a ‘lesbian’ won’t want another ‘lesbian’ with a dick. They just want to fuck real women with vaginas.

Potplant2 · 11/05/2018 12:40

Nah, gladallover, you need to say something like, reading some bloke’s lecherous fantasies about getting a lesbian to touch his peepee makes me feel sick, to qualify. Sorry.

GladAllOver · 11/05/2018 12:37

I'm jealous of you, Potplant2. I want to be on Twitter too!

Transwomen are not women.
Transwomen are not women.
Transwomen are not women.

Does that qualify?

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 11/05/2018 12:34

quentin

Some people on twitter really have comprehension problems

No one on here has said that at all

pombal · 11/05/2018 12:33

Men who aren’t lesbians cos they’re men and their partners can have sex in so many fun ways that do involve their penis and testicles, but don’t necessarily trigger dysphoria.

Have edited it.

Potplant2 · 11/05/2018 12:28

Yay I made it onto Twitter!

SporadicSpartacus · 11/05/2018 12:26

... how. How is gay a gender.

Any links to read up on this new peak of woke-ness?

It’s like a rabbit hole of increasing bonkersness.

HotRocker · 11/05/2018 12:25

Ok i’m a bit slow. Disregard my last post, or the first line of it at least. The second part still stands.

HotRocker · 11/05/2018 12:14

Ok i’ve just looked at another thread and it would seem that now they are starting on the gay men. Let us see how this one plays out. If the gay men don’t like it and get on board then it can only be a good thing. Let’s have some male allies shall we.
I’ve noticed that the trans-lobby are now trying to turn gay into a gender instead of a sexuality.
I thought that after section 28 and all the homophobia I grew up with, that when I came out it would be easier. How wrong I was. Looks like we are going to have to fight all over again.

QuentinSummers · 11/05/2018 12:08

Someone on twitter has suggested this thread is transphobic Hmm
Because implying lesbians need lessons in how to pleasure penis isn't homophobic at all
I hope it will illustrate what trans politics is actually about.

The erasure of lesbians by the transcult - 'How to have lesbian sex with a transwoman' NSFW
HotRocker · 11/05/2018 12:01

Are we seeing the same sort of campaign against gay men? No, of course we aren’t, because men have the right to say no.

leyat · 11/05/2018 11:56

I recommend to everyone who is up for it, to contact local MP's/MSP's etc about Stonewall regarding their anti lesbian stance that is helping foment the sexual harassment and coercion of lesbian women and indeed homophobia.

I asked Stonewall Scotland if they would give their support to women who are exclusively same sex attracted and they refused to do so, despite stating in their funding blurb that they support all LGBT people 'without exception'. In other words they secure funding, including government funding, based on a fraudulent claim. They are now a LGBT organisation that finds exclusive same sex attraction as inherently objectionable and they should not be given funding so long as they hold this view.

I plan to include this in something I am working on with some other women in relation to the Scottish govts proposals re the GRA, but the more people who contact their constituency representatives re this, the better.

PollyBanana · 11/05/2018 11:53

I'm just trying to scoop my brains back into my skull after my head exploded

GladAllOver · 11/05/2018 11:50

I can't remember the first part, but there was a limerick that ended
"... who does what and to whom?"

I got lost after the first couple of paragraphs, trying to follow from the descriptions what actual sex the participants are supposed to be.

Surely the whole thing could be replaced by one sentence -

"Consenting people can enjoy sex in whatever way they like"

HotRocker · 11/05/2018 11:42

Why is it so important for them to have sex with women who identify as lesbian? There are plenty of women in the world who like having sex with people who have penises. If they themselves want to identify as lesbian then it’s nothing to do with me, but it is possible for lesbian to have sex with a woman who does not identify as lesbian. They are just so obsessed with validating themselves as women that nothing less than having sex with a woman who is only attracted to women will suffice. Pure narcissism. I want to be the most womanly of all women and go into women’ space and be in charge of telling all other women how to do womaning my way.

KittyKlaws · 11/05/2018 11:30

Lesbian erasing trans-activist coercing homophobes, or LETCH maybe? Just off the top of my head like.

Grin
KittyKlaws · 11/05/2018 11:29

I don’t think it’s a misunderstanding, I think it’s a wilful colonisation and erasure of the meaning of the word.

It isn't a misunderstanding. It is a deliberate attempt to shag lesbians. And to guilt them into sleeping with these penis bearers

Indeed. I was being (unsuccessfully) facetious.

Datun · 11/05/2018 11:26

I bet it took him all day to write. What with all the trips to the kitchen sink for rehydration and to collect another box of tissues.