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The erasure of lesbians by the transcult - 'How to have lesbian sex with a transwoman' NSFW

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OrchidInTheSun · 11/05/2018 09:48

This is an article explaining (graphically!) how a lesbian should have sex with a person with a penis. So a man.

www.autostraddle.com/how-to-have-trans-woman-lesbian-sex-with-a-penis-414839/amp/

This is part of a series called Lesbian Sex 101: "Employment of the term “lesbian sex” in this post uses “lesbian” as an adjective to describe sex between two women or people who identify with that experience, regardless of the sexual orientation of the two people involved."

So basically, emphatically not lesbian sex, given that lesbian sex is sex between two biological women who don't have penises.

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ReluctantCamper · 12/05/2018 12:19

yes, the 'lives are at risk' warning at the start of that thread. Hmm

I can confirm that not having sex isn't fatal. really.

Ereshkigal · 12/05/2018 12:17

It's 'yeah I would totally go out with you except that I'm gay/in a LTR/a monk/asexual/celibate (delete as appropriate)

Yes. Fun to watch them squirm, generally though Grin

AngryAttackKittens · 12/05/2018 12:17

The constant grifting annoys me so much, especially when it's all "you cis people are horrible bigots who kill eleventy billion trans women a week by not believing in us and you should all die in a fire! p.s. Don't forget to send me some money first".

OrchidInTheSun · 12/05/2018 12:13

Sorry - missed that you'd linked it Ereshkigal! Yes it's totally it. It's 'yeah I would totally go out with you except that I'm gay/in a LTR/a monk/asexual/celibate (delete as appropriate)

I see that person is now asking for help with their gas bill.

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AngryAttackKittens · 12/05/2018 12:11

I think we called it "dancing" at the time, though.

terryleather · 12/05/2018 12:10

I think I used to actually do that when I was a goth Angry Grin

SardineReturns · 12/05/2018 12:10

""Handsex" sounds like some hippie shit where you rub your hands against the other person's hands and stare into each other's eyes while someone plays Dead Can Dance in the background."

I'm old and tired, this sounds fine Grin

Ereshkigal · 12/05/2018 12:06

did see a thread on Twitter by a TIM telling heterosexual men that they shouldn't expect a TIM to tell them they're trans but they should instead make it clear in their dating profiles/chatting up that they're not keen on penises.

Was it the one I posted just now Orchid? Can believe there may be others but I think they have a limited chance of success, given that many of their wokebro allies claim to see them as women of course are lying "except for relationship purposes".

AngryAttackKittens · 12/05/2018 12:04

"Handsex" sounds like some hippie shit where you rub your hands against the other person's hands and stare into each other's eyes while someone plays Dead Can Dance in the background.

OrchidInTheSun · 12/05/2018 12:02

I did see a thread on Twitter by a TIM telling heterosexual men that they shouldn't expect a TIM to tell them they're trans but they should instead make it clear in their dating profiles/chatting up that they're not keen on penises.

Then there was a post from a heterosexual man saying that he completely was on side because he'd met some TIMS and some of them were gorgeous and he'd totally go there. Unfortunately though, he was married and faithful to his lovely wife. It's funny how all the woke men have a really good excuse as to why they're not available to date TIMs isn't it? Hmm

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SardineReturns · 12/05/2018 12:02

"Like with handsex, oral sex on a trans woman’s penis looks different from oral sex on a cis penis. "

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I am running out of ?????????????

  1. Who is watching
  2. Is it because the lesbian performing it looks less happy than her het counterpart?
AngryAttackKittens · 12/05/2018 12:00

"The conversation about trans lesbian sex often focuses on anal,"

I thought this part was just "see, everyone thinks we're gay, I mean straight, but we're actually straight, I mean lesbian".

SardineReturns · 12/05/2018 12:00

"soft penises are sexy"

As a heterosexual woman (in the old style cunty person who likes dicky people style) I have to say, that no, soft penises are NOT sexy.

Plus, to most lesbians, no penises are sexy, soft, hard, big, small. It's kind of a no penis deal. And no, penises are not "basically just like clits" I mean WTF.

SardineReturns · 12/05/2018 11:58

"In terms of tissue structure and sensitivity, penises are basically just like clits, but bigger."

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Erm, has this person seen a picture of a clit? Much bigger and the entire body would have to be filled with lovely alienesque frondy things.

This person seems uneducated when it comes to women's bodies. And yet, here they are writing an article telling women how to have sex! Not just any women, lesbians! And saying, why not move away from anal, and try eating your partner out, in the sense of, sucking their dick. Yay!

AngryAttackKittens · 12/05/2018 11:58

"Eating out" made me chortle for real. Took some self control not to splatter my beverage all over my nice new monitor.

DJLippy · 12/05/2018 11:56

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3246838-Lesbians-are-Legends-Vote-in-the-Guardian-Pride-Power-List

Here is a thread to vote for an actual lesbian in the Guardian LGBT awards. I just voted Linda Bellos & Magdalen Berns. Let's stop the madness!

SardineReturns · 12/05/2018 11:55

"Instead of saying “blow job,” try talking about “going down” or “eating out.” "

Eating out?

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SardineReturns · 12/05/2018 11:54

"The conversation about trans lesbian sex often focuses on anal,"

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I am...

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How many lesbians want a penis up their arse?
Hardly any straight women actually want a penis up their arse.
Many women having anal arre doing so because it is expected / tehy are pressurised. Especially younger women and girls.
Of course some women enjoy it but, we can't get away from the fact that this act used to be "niche" but is now standard in porn and has become expected as standard by men, whether the women and girls involved like it or not. As usual, pressure is applied to get her to comply, an awful lot.

So, lesbians might have hoped to escape all this, whining men getting the sads because you're not that keen. But no! In the new world, lesbians get to experience this too! Joy.

(Not saying no lesbians enjoy a bit of bum action obv, but, For Fuck's Sake).

It's ALL about men and their dicks isn't it. ALL of it. A total preoccupation with sex and willies. Yeah because that's not a male trait at all.

RunRabbitRunRabbit · 12/05/2018 11:50

That article made me laugh. It was an article about how to have sex where the primary aim is not penis in vagina or penis in anus. I found it hilarious.

A man has discovered that sex can involve more than shove it in and out of the hole. He wishes to share this astonishing insight. Obviously such knowledge has come from being trans. Ludicrous.

You'd think that an article about lesbian sex would be about how to pleasure the female body without using penetration. Apparently that's not even worth mentioning. If I were a transwoman and a natal female was willing to have sex with me, I would want articles about how to pleasure her so she wanted to repeat the experience.

The author is bad at sex and has written an article that shows how bad they must be at it because they have no interest in the other person's pleasure.

It's just a bog standard sex guide on how to do foreplay upon the male body.

I am reminded of Jimmy Carr's frequent aside "Don't neglect the balls ladies."

OlennasWimple · 12/05/2018 11:50

Are we seeing the same sort of campaign against gay men?

I must try and find it again, but I recently read an article from a couple of years back that advised transmen who were having difficulty finding a partner to consider dating butch lesbians instead of gay men, as they might be more accepting of their transition Hmm

ReluctantCamper · 12/05/2018 11:39

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myfriendbob · 12/05/2018 11:37

Are we seeing the same sort of campaign against gay men? No, of course we aren’t, because men have the right to say no

Funny, I haven't seen any articles about how gay men should have sex with transmen with their male vaginas and don't forget you can get men pregnant with your gay sex!
Odd Hmm

Ereshkigal · 12/05/2018 11:32

Here's a nice piece of coercive emotional blackmail aimed at straight men for a change. Good luck with that.

twitter.com/squidlarkin/status/994634618677575680?s=20

PencilsInSpace · 12/05/2018 11:30

Sexual orientation is a protected characteristic under the Equality Act:

(1)Sexual orientation means a person's sexual orientation towards—

(a)persons of the same sex,

(b)persons of the opposite sex, or

(c)persons of either sex.

This article is deeply homophobic.

Autostraddle appear to be US based but Stonewall also peddle this shite and are based in the UK. Stonewall are therefore bound by the Equality Act and, if the government money they get is to carry out public functions, they will also be expected to meet the public sector equality duty.

AngryAttackKittens · 12/05/2018 11:18

Yeah well being told to shag someone I'm not attracted to triggers my feminist rage.