The erasure of lesbians by the transcult - 'How to have lesbian sex with a transwoman' NSFW

Oh what you said was clear

Just a bit dumb

If you are gay its easier to say you are a lesbian or a gay man and go to a gay bar or a gay friendly b and b

And i dont give a shiny shit if 'as a gay man/woman' someone doesnt want to be labeled

Thats fine...crack on, but some people especially young ones find it easier

Er hello, OLD, Tinder etc?

But you're still woefully missing the point.

Perhaps with more casual encounters, it may be different.

Yes. It's pretty deceptive if you don't tell them and people don't tend to like to be deceived.

It matters to the woman you're trying to have sex with, is the point here. IF you're male claiming to be female, it matters a huge amount.
When I'm thinking whether I want to have sex with a person, I get to know them well enough to know what sort of body they have. I don't need to know what they or others may call it.
Perhaps with more casual encounters, it may be different.

If you like sex with a woman, it matters not whether you are male or female, you just get on with enjoying it

It matters to the woman you're trying to have sex with, is the point here. IF you're male claiming to be female, it matters a huge amount.

We're NOT past the point of categorisations, that is literally the point.

You don't need to call yourself straight or gay or lesbian. We are past the stage where you need to be categorised

Are we? So gay rights should include straight people with blue hair?

Which brings in "straight" men who do want a no strings hook up with a TIM.

That's not how human sexuality works GladAllOver. If you're a lesbian, you're a lesbian. No amount of liking someone is going to make you find a cock and balls sexually exciting
I think what I said is pretty clear.

If you like sex with a woman, it matters not whether you are male or female, you just get on with enjoying it.
Ditto if you prefer sex with men, you just do it.
You don't need to call yourself straight or gay or lesbian. We are past the stage where you need to be categorised. You are just a human enjoying sex with someone you fancy.

I don't understand Grindr is a dating app which gay men use to connect with other gay men, why would a TIM think that that is a place to get what he wants.

Because it's now being branded as "queer" I think.

I wonder if that sort of pressure makes the idea of transitioning, more appealing to a young lesbian? As a transman it might be easier to get a girlfriend rather than a transgirlfriend. Just a thought anyway.

Where are the articles for straight men on how to have sex with a transwoman with a penis?
Yes it's such a mystery isn't it!
Maybe it's because straight men are not attracted to 'women' with male bodies
And 'women' with male bodies are not attracted to straight men
'Women' with male bodies find it much more satisfying to try and coerce women with female bodies into having sex with them

Stuff like this makes me feel sad for young/vulnerable lesbians. I imagine most older ones will know their own mind enough to not be influenced by this kind of thing. But I imagine that it's hard for the younger ones. You're already probably getting a general message that it's weird you're attracted to your own sex rather than to the opposite. On top of that you are being told that your own sex includes people you can see to be the opposite sex, and that you should be attracted to some of these people of the opposite sex because they say that they are the same sex as you, and that the very fact you can actually tell they are the opposite sex makes you a bad person so you better keep that to yourself and pretend you think they are exactly the same as you... I can imagine it being a total head fuck.

I'm told they have taken over Grindr, to the anger of many gay men
I don't understand Grindr is a dating app which gay men use to connect with other gay men, why would a TIM think that that is a place to get what he wants.

Why are there not TIMs designing apps for other TIMs to find people who want to date TIMs?

Where are the articles for straight men on how to have sex with a transwoman with a penis?

So on dating sites will there be an option for people to say whether they are interested in TIMs?

I'm told they have taken over Grindr, to the anger of many gay men. When they're supposedly "straight". Trans logic - never knowingly consistent.

t's always assumed that we're up for anything (especially threesomes!) and I don't like the additional assumption a bisexual person would automatically be happy with sex with a transwoman.

Our favourite women's officer is in a relationship with a bisexual woman, which of course allows the women's officer to continue to claim to be a lesbian

I did see a thread on Twitter by a TIM telling heterosexual men that they shouldn't expect a TIM to tell them they're trans but they should instead make it clear in their dating profiles/chatting up that they're not keen on penises
So on dating sites will there be an option for people to say whether they are interested in TIMs?
If there is it will presumably become very evident to TIMs that they are a very niche preference, that's on the hole straight men gay men straight women gay women are not interested in dating them.
Furthermore TIMs don't want to date other TIM because that is triggering to TIMs
Presumably it is triggering because seeing another man masquerading as a woman remind him that he is also a man masquerading as a woman?

But I digress.... the TIM has painted himself into a corner and options for sexual partners are now severely limited
What's will TIMs do??

Sorry just to add - I won't 'try' to get my head around it, ergo I will never be naked around these people.

I have had enough sex with people who identify as transgender in different ways to know it is 100% not for me.

But I feel it's important to speak up and say that this sort of coercive behaviour is noticed and not going unchallenged.

(interestingly most of the crappy coercive sex I've ever had was with trans-identifying people. Selfish, expecting it to be all about them, hypersensitive and prone to going absolutely into a rage spiral if I didn't feel in the mood. My sample size is not enormous but those have been my experiences.)

Well said, Bonsai.

Just to chime in regarding bisexual people. It's always assumed that we're up for anything (especially threesomes!) and I don't like the additional assumption a bisexual person would automatically be happy with sex with a transwoman.

Speaking for myself, I enjoy sex with people who align with their biology. I do not find a penis on a person otherwise claiming to be a woman attractive. If I'm going to have a penis in my vicinity then yea I'd like it to be fully functional and attached to a man - no matter whether I also will sleep with women on different occasions.

Those are my preferences and I refuse to feel pressured to change them. I have a right to my sexual tastes and no amount of guilting or shrieking transphobia is going to make me try to recondition my sexuality to please random people I've never met and never will.

I think we are supposed to be fine about having unwanted sex because we are being nice, and inclusive, and helpful. This should make us feel better. We are women after all.
Not allowed to say no though, because that would be literal violence and a hate crime.
We shall bestow our favours on you as long as you comply, but if you don’t, you shall be condemned.
Its all getting a bit Gilead.

It's ALL about men and their dicks isn't it
YUP

This is standard practice and most women are well aware of it.

Yes. I've been the victim of it, it is well known as an abuse tactic when it's used to control others' behaviour and I will never stop calling it out.

Hmm.

I've known men and boys who threatened suicide when women / girls didn't give them what they wanted (always related to relationships / sex).

This is standard practice and most women are well aware of it.

Why does gender code "manipulative" as female when thinking about it, the most manipulative people I've met have been men? I suppose in gender when men are manipulative it is rewritten as "determined" or something. L

No Camper, it's because they're being murdered at alarming rates! And something something this is why! TERFs!