Has anyone else just discovered that they are a RadFem?

I'd say most, (but not all) of my woman friends have similar attitudes to mine. There are legion of RadFems out there. They just don't know it.

LaSqrrl thank you for that. I hate to think they were telling pokies considering how emotionally vulnerable I was during it all. Perhaps there was confusion considering it fell between 3 different police departments (the rape happened in 1 county, rapist lived in another and I lived in another?)

I never thought I’d be a radical anything. But lo and behold, my views do indeed align with radical feminism more than any other type. And the funny thing is that I don’t consider any of my views radical at all. I think they’re fairly sensible and obvious. Women don’t have penises. I’d have thought that wasn’t terribly out there as a statement. Women are oppressed as a result of their biology - again fairly obvious. Porn is not good for women. Society is set up to benefit men.

I’d always assumed that radical = burn the world down. That simply stating a few facts about biology and female oppression is seen as radical is quite an eye opener. I’m not quite forty but I think my feminism is more of an older generation and I do not identify with liberal feminism at all.

I think they may have told some porkies maybe?

Here is the DV support line and they will refer you on to others if need be.
I suspect the 'someone who will get in touch with you' was more likely to be CPS.

LaSqrrl no one told me that was possible. Well beyond the support line given by the police anyway, that support line never got in touch and when i asked the police for the number that said it was the support line who has to get in touch with me.

Just saw this on Facebook (www.facebook.com/LiberalFeministAgenda/ ). 'Liberal feminism' apparently now means trans cult plus some weird stuff about Satanism and Communism?? These lib fems have totally lost the plot.

There used to be an email service from a smaller rape and sexual violence charity...Lighthouse i think it was called based in London. I've always thought women need multiple different ways to access support. The charity was quite religious though I should also add.

or opportunities for the help on offer to be made available at a survivors home

Not practical in DV, and puts DV workers at risk of harm. But even for rape crisis support, still could be risky for the support workers.

What stopped you getting telephone support?

I realised I was a Radical Feminist about 2 years ago when I was called a Feminazi (favourite term of abuse against women on a politics board I used to be on) for being pro-choice and against prostitution and porn.

There is actually a good article on the polarisation of the Metoo debate on the Guardian to-day (you see you can read the Guardian and still be a RadFem) where the author shows that liberal feminists believe women need to stand up for themselves and adopt male attitudes to get on and stop complaining. Whereas Radical Feminists believe women need to come together to fight the oppression of all men against them ie the idea that women's work should be paid less; that women should do all the work in the home; that women should look sexy - I mean, I love to look good and am quite vain but can anyone, anyone at all explain to me how a woman whose main claim to fame was an internet sex tape can claim to be a feminist icon???????

or opportunities for the help on offer to be made available at a survivors home.

That sounds like a good suggestion for both your situation and that of males whether trans identified or not.

I know this is perhaps going off topic of the original thread by continuing this theme of women's only crisis centres etc.

But, I did have an issue with using a rape crisis centre. I suffer from extreme anxiety and so I wished to take my DH along with me for support but as he was male he wasn't allowed in. As a result I missed out on that opportunity to use that space. I know my case is a one off and I do appreciate that men in these spaces will be distressing to other vulnerable women. Just, I found it hard that there wasn't a middle ground space.

This isn't to say I think crisis centres should be uni-sex, or whatever term, but that a thought to how these places could include all women with mental health issues like me. Or perhaps separate places could be set up or opportunities for the help on offer to be made available at a survivors home.

lasqurrl no idea how you misconstrued my comment when I clearly said they could open their own shelters.

Maybe next time clarify before you decide to have a go, particularly towards someone whose used those services.

@LaSqrrl

Please can you put a trigger warning next time you post a link to a picture of Daniel(le) Muscato 'flaunting his pins'. Thank you.

Thisis: Sorry, who am I being dismissive of?

Ok, well I think then I may have misinterpreted what you were saying by:

They can make it for transpeople and for women who don't mind sharing that space with them.

I took it to mean women's shelters could open up to trans, and those women "who didn't mind" could share. I see now it could be taken the other way, trans shelters that would be inclusive of women.

The reason I did not see that initially? Because that latter scenario would never happen. IF, in the remote scenario that T set up shelters, for all their talk of 'inclusiveness', would never include women. Their version of 'inclusiveness' only works one way.

So now you should see why I misinterpreted your comment. What you hypothetically proposed, would never happen in a million years. That possibly is why I seemed 'condescending' towards you, you proposed a scenario as likely as the Tories coming up with decent social welfare policies. All filed under: Never gunna happen.

@ProfessionalBarren
Sorry haven’t RTFT but a page ago you were wondering about whether radical feminism would be against IVF.

I am not well read in this area but I am gender critical and pro choice on reproduction. Choice on whether or not, or how to get pregnant. So safe legal accessible publicly funded contraception and abortion rights, compulsory sex and relationships education in schools, and same for supporting reproductive choice including via IVF or other methods.
So as to help women who want to try for a pregnancy get proper medical assistance to do so. I also think parental choice on embryo selection is important to offer for families who know their children are at risk of something serious which is inherited and who want to use IVF technologies to do that.

but whether or not that’s available or people want to use that there must be proper care and support for people born with those conditions. Neither of which, the medical care or the support the state (via the NHS or social care) is at all adequately funded to provide at the moment.

I think all of the above are consistent with women’s rights. You can’t ignore the social context though and I think that’s what we need to tackle (radically). Reproductive technology like any other tech (or social media) is only as safe or ethical as the people who use it so I think the law and transparent professional regulation have a huge part to play.

There was an attempt to create a shelter for trans people in California but when I just looked everything I could find was from 2014, so not sure what the current status is. Seemed like a good idea though.

archives.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2014/05/23/community-raises-money-to-open-transgender-shelter-in-oakland

I didn't know that LaSqrrl I'm in favour of refuges for men but it really is down to them to run them.
I think this is what men really really don't get-the work that women do. Nothing we have has been handed to us, it's all a result of women working tirelessly behind the scenes for no money.

And FTR, I've BEEN that abused woman fleeing from a violent partner, so please don't treat me like some clueless idiot.

LaSqrrl Sorry, who am I being dismissive of?

I'm not suggesting that funding get taken away from women's shelters or that women's shelters get taken over by those that are for transwomen too. I'm suggesting that they set up their own shelters with privately raised money.

I'm perfectly aware of what has been going on in the women's sector, but thanks for declaring I don't know instead of terming it in a less patrosining way.

I remember this.

Yep it's used once a month I heard recently - for an emergency overnight stay. It's still crowed as a success(sic) in the local press by his mates - WTF!!

urgh its infuriating that some men think like that!! Women's refuges are in a major resource crisis and are barely staying a float! They only survive now on charity and amazing women who run them! Do men want us to set their's up for them too then? idiots.

They ALL shut down due to lack of demand

That's why the MRAs don't parrot that anymore - they successfully undermined all the funding and policies for women's refuges so game over from their perspective

He named the refuge after himself and only backed off the name when a national newspaper took up the campaign and shamed him.

I remember this. Stands empty? Not surprised.

That's why it pisses me off when men go "where are all the men's refuges?"

I am told that the UK had men's DV shelters. They ALL shut down due to lack of demand.

That's why it pisses me off when men go "where are all the men's refuges?" Er..set one up?

One smarmy bastard where I am used council funds to set up a women's refuge with some police mates - sounds good - well he has a DV conviction! He named the refuge after himself and only backed off the name when a national newspaper took up the campaign and shamed him.

He set it up as a FU to all the local women's refuges who are overwhelmed with demand and crying out for space.

It stands empty most of the time as it's run by police volunteers and is not part of the women's refuge movement. It's not safe for women in other words.