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Germaine Greer Fan Club

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DJLippy · 09/05/2018 12:16

Is anyone else annoyed with Germaine Greers banishment to the naughty corner? She's a living icon and she's just not appreciated properly. It's a real shame the way she is no-platformed and vilified - just because she says women don't have penis'.

I wanted to share some Germaine Greer links that I love. I'm a massive fan and I'm pretty sure a lot of you guys are as well. If you could share your own links, messages, thoughts that would be awesome.

The Female Eunuch
seminariolecturasfeministas.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/germaine-greer-the-female-eunuch.pdf

The War if the Sexes. 1993 Panel show with Caitlin Moran, Janet Street Porter & Suzanne Moore. This explains the backlash...

+Germaine Greer on Newsnight re transwomen*
www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=403&v=7B8Q6D4a6TM

Has the #MeToo movement gone too far? With Sophie Walker & Melanie Phillips

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theredjellybean · 26/05/2018 10:48

" Because sure as eggs are eggs what she says is right and way more people need to open their eyes and minds now before we all end up in an even deeper mess."

Really ??? so when she was on woman's hour saying that menopause does not increase your risk of osteoporosis and and it is merely something encouraged by big pharma to make money she was right was she ?

No sorry not everything this woman says is right and i used to be a really big fan until i heard her discussing menopause on woman's hour. Not only was she factually wrong, did not bother to consider scenarios such as peri-meno or early menopause and she rode rough shod rudely over presenters objections or challenges. She was also very patronising and derogatory about women taking HRT. Her attitude was menopause is normal and hrt is big pharma att its worse. No thought or consideration of the fact many women do suffer and also these women may well have the intellectual capacity to decide for themselves whether they want hrt or not. We dont need so called intellectual feminists to decide for us, that is as bad as men doing it !

Florabunda60 · 26/05/2018 07:57

I am a Gransnetter, and fan of Germaine Greer in her present incarnation. Haven't been following media coverage around her latest book much.
But I did have the privilege of hearing her speak live only year. She has done a lot for Bug's Life charity and environmentalism.
Her down to earth way on whatever subject strikes a real cord with me.
Have had more than enough of over PC-ness and snowflake generation.
Wonderful to hear her say it how it is.
She has guts and deserves more support for both herself and her thoughts. Because sure as eggs are eggs what she says is right and way more people need to open their eyes and minds now before we all end up in an even deeper mess.

Bowlofbabelfish · 18/05/2018 19:23

She’s an intellectual powerhouse. Even on the times when I don’t agree with her I like listening to her - she argues so well. It’s wonderful to hear proper reasoned debate.

She’s one of my fantasy dinner party guests. Id love to meet her.

DJLippy · 18/05/2018 18:59

According to Ash Sarkar (a fellow panelist) Greer was drunk on the GenderQuake debate. Anyone else love her even more? Half cut and still able to wipe the floor with the rest of the panel...

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theredjellybean · 15/05/2018 21:54

I usually am in agreement with GG on most things but thought she was shocking on woman's hour today.
Basically felt like a telling off if you found the menopause hard.
I have just started hrt.. And it really felt personal. Her stance was it is a normal thing to happen and women should not take hrt as its all a myth they might do good, put out by big pharma companies.
She poo poohed the evidence it helps reduce risk of osteoporosis. And kept referring to hrt as steroids which gave a very warped view imo. They are sex steroids which is different to taking long term corticosteroids.
I won't be buying her new book, she was condescending, patronising and rude to presenter today and to the listeners

theaveragewife · 15/05/2018 21:46

I agree, it’s dull with more than a hint of ageist misogyny - only realised that’s why I fucking hate it when GG said it on genderquake.

LassWiADelicateAir · 15/05/2018 21:43

Just heard GG (corrrcted your typo) talking on woman's hour, she managed to find a problem with The comedy program on TV Mrs Browns Boys, I think she could find fault anywhere a man is involved, very sad really

I loathe Mrs Brown's Boys so does my husband (aged 64) and our son (27). It is not remotely funny. Les Dawson's northern woman gossiping with her neighbour sketches on the other hand were brilliant.

theaveragewife · 15/05/2018 21:40

here is the whole Kay Burley interview. Very good and agree with a lot, I feel lucky to have read her books early on enough in my married life to make changes Grin

I don’t agree that all women should point out their abusers to stop another woman suffering. Having been through a horrific abusive relationship in my early 20s I know I would have been either vilified by a sociopath or killed had I done so, it’s just not that easy. The idea of having an anonymous forum with behaviours of abusive men for Uni students is still a good one though.

All in all - glad she’s back. If only to promote her book.

dianebrewster · 15/05/2018 21:20

I loathe Mrs Browns boys, don't find it remotely funny. But then I loathed Dick Emmery too. Loved Dame Edna OTOH. It's not the issue of parody - it's whether it's done with distain for the person being parodied.

DJLippy · 15/05/2018 16:36

I wouldn't mind Mrs Brown's Boy's but it betrays the first rule of parody. You have to actually be funny.

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Merrylegs · 15/05/2018 16:26

www.list.co.uk/event/880480-town-bloody-hall-12a*/ this looks good.

Picassospaintbrush · 15/05/2018 16:15

Feminism has always been derided as hating men.

Picassospaintbrush · 15/05/2018 16:12

Wow, I've just seen she is live at Winchester on June 3rd. I'm going to buy a box ( 4 seats) anyone want to come with me?
@Erishkigal

TinklyLittleLaugh · 15/05/2018 16:08

Vick illustrates an important point though. Many not very bright young people seem to equate feminism with hating men.

NKFell · 15/05/2018 16:03

Just wanted to say, I LOVE Germaine Greer and I'm very jealous of all who have met her!

R0wantrees · 15/05/2018 15:54

thread also here about Germaine Greer:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3249171-Germaine-Greer-on-Sky-News-now

Mamaryllis · 15/05/2018 15:51

Oh Vicks, bless. You are trying SO hard. It’s almost embarrassing to watch. Yeah but no but.
Mrs Browns Boys is just puerile.

Merrylegs · 15/05/2018 15:35

'bitter twisted old hag'. You are very kind, Vicky to perfectly illustrate Germaine's point. Glad to have you in the fan club.

Picassospaintbrush · 15/05/2018 15:21

Blimey. The vitriol for women who dare to not show reverence for everything a man does is massive!

Picassospaintbrush · 15/05/2018 15:19

I also find the humour in Mrs Browns Boys incomprehensible. Does that make me sad?

DJLippy · 15/05/2018 15:15

This woman is a bitter twisted old hag

That was you Vicky right? No wonder you love Mrs Brown's boys.

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Merrylegs · 15/05/2018 13:59

^^ Well, tbf she also laid into Acorn Antiques. Her WIDER point was that humour at the expense of older people - eg dementia, sight loss, oesteperosis, isn't very funny. And that society is far more sympathetic to older men. 'We like older men'. But older women are derided. And the butt of jokes.

Vicky1990 · 15/05/2018 13:42

Just heardJG talking on woman's hour, she managed to find a problem with The comedy program on TV Mrs Browns Boys, I think she could find fault anywhere a man is involved, very sad really.

Picassospaintbrush · 15/05/2018 12:32

I learned everything I know about contraception from Germaine Greer in Sex and Destiny.

She is the same age as my mum, if only my mum had been able to pursue a career like hers. If only all women her age had been able to.

Picassospaintbrush · 15/05/2018 12:29

The toilet statements GG made on the gender debate were a lot more subtle than for and against. She doesn't speak in soundbites so will always get misrepresented if you try to do that. She contextualised it by her cultural background as Australian. She was also exasperated that the conversation is always dragged on to toilets.

I think she did well on the debate, again, she is very precise with words, the quote was read out of context. She challenged the presentation of it as a "you" statement, when it was a general statement about SRS not changing sex which is a matter of fact. This was a bit too subtle a distinction for the presenter. Professors are very precise with words. She did repeat it quite happily when pressed, SRS doesn't change sex. Berkdorf can't hold a candle to her.

She was interesting this morning on menopause, I am going to buy her new book.