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Channel 4's Genderquake Debate is heavily criticised/ boycotted(?) by prominent transgender activists & allies .

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R0wantrees · 08/05/2018 17:11

Transgender campaigners and organisations have released an open letter to Channel 4 criticising Genderquake, a season of programmes touted as an exploration of the gender debate, as "counterproductive".
Signees are particularly concerned about Genderquake: The Debate, a studio discussion hosted by Cathy Newman that promises to look at what gender means in 2018. It will discuss topics including: 'what defines our gender identity', 'how that affects our rights', 'should it be easier to change gender' and 'does gender matter'.

The letter, published by indy100 in full below, argues that the debate will give legitimacy to transphobia, prejudice and the notion that trans identities are up for discussion. This concern is presumably stoked by the presence of Australian-born academic and writer Germaine Greer on the panel, who has previously said transgender women "can't be women". continues...

"The letter is published in full below and has been signed by dozens of prominent transgender and non-binary activists and campaigners - and allies - alike, including Fox Fisher, Owl, Stephanie Hirst, Juno Roche, Travis Alabanza, Kate Llewellyn, Jack Monroe and India Willoughby."

www.indy100.com/article/genderquake-the-debate-transphobia-channel-4-open-letter-campaigners-germaine-greer-8341481

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Truscum · 08/05/2018 22:47

Well, this has been a massive diss appointment.

Only two gender critical voices in a panel of how many?

A presenter who is quite blatantly shutting down any GC views being aired and is instead encouraging Jenner to bore the fucking socks off everyone with a necdotes and waste time.

I actually thought ‘finally!’ when she started talking about some people promoting violence and thought she may mention the SF exhibit....but, no. Let’s grill GG on how she doesn’t think men are women.

spontaneousgiventime · 08/05/2018 22:46

GG not happy with the way the show is going and the topics.

VaggieMight · 08/05/2018 22:46

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TinselAngel · 08/05/2018 22:45

Why the fuck didn't I buy some gin before watching this? If I wanted to watch people deferring to males I could do that by watching any other bloody programme ever.

R0wantrees · 08/05/2018 22:45

How different is Germaine treated to Caitlin?

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boatyardblues · 08/05/2018 22:45

Audience getting frustrated and calling out.

rememberthetime · 08/05/2018 22:45

I've had to switch off - far too frustrating.

Lemonjello · 08/05/2018 22:45

Losing the will to live listening to CJ droning on!

boatyardblues · 08/05/2018 22:45

CJ me me meee again. The 15 yo story is sad, but CJ mentions depression in the anecdote. It’s complex.

AncientLights · 08/05/2018 22:44

Somebody fire Kathy Newman. She is not up to her job at all. I'm losing the will to live.

spontaneousgiventime · 08/05/2018 22:44

CJ is off again

AbsintheFriends · 08/05/2018 22:44

Munroe saying she doesn't care what GG or anyone else thinks of her because it doesn't impact on her identity.

If that's true, why the ongoing arguments over pronouns?

NaturalBornWoman · 08/05/2018 22:44

Oh for fucks sake Jenner, bore off!

spontaneousgiventime · 08/05/2018 22:44

CJ - I represent the trans community.

LikeAZombie · 08/05/2018 22:44

Cj is so bloody boring

CrustyCob · 08/05/2018 22:43

Meanwhile back with CJ....again....FFS

ReluctantCamper · 08/05/2018 22:42

oh god WHY IS CAITLYN JENNER FUCKING TALKING AGAIN?

ReluctantCamper · 08/05/2018 22:42

jeez louise Munroe, how you identify is irrelevent to your sex duckie

spontaneousgiventime · 08/05/2018 22:42

Finally - GG speaks sense.

DuddlePluck · 08/05/2018 22:42

If you lop off your dick, it doesn't make you a woman, it makes you a man without a cock.... Grin

LikeAZombie · 08/05/2018 22:41

Finally gg speaks the truth

Terfulike · 08/05/2018 22:41

Thick presenter

ReluctantCamper · 08/05/2018 22:41

yes Germaine!

TheClitterati · 08/05/2018 22:41

Can't be arsed at the mo - want to go to bed and it's giving me the rage. Will watch on catch up tomorrow

Exactly my response. CJ is a massive bore and as for the woman In red I can see where thats going. Tedious. I'll need to be able to FF.

ReluctantCamper · 08/05/2018 22:40

wouldn't it be nice if cathy newman would challenge some of the trans advocates like this?