Money from the Tampon Tax designed to support women used to fund trans youth conference

I don't think they should be taxed anyway.

I find it hard to be offended by this. I pay Vat on lots of things I consider a necessity and don't get any say in how the money is spent. Should never have been segregated and should have just formed part of the tax pot imo.

"Tbf that has already been changed and in the future it will be possible for each EU country to set the tax even at 0%"

Not true, it is very strictly and absolutely illegal. VAT is governed by Directive 2006/112/EC, and it takes YEARS for the EU to change anything.

It is true that there is a PROPOSAL to change it ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/vat/action-plan-vat/proposal-vat-rates_en but it's not law.

"VAT is a tax on luxury items"

That's not correct, VAT is a consumption tax, and the EU mandate a minimum take of 12% of total consumption spending. Some countries choose to exempt essentials, but it's not a luxury tax by design. The UK DID have a 'luxury'-based purchase tax, but was required to scrap it and replace it with the EU's VAT as a mandatory condition of joining the EU.

When in fact George is ploughing money in to groups busy erasing women, and in particular lesbians.

Well done George, mum must be so proud.

I am lesbian and will no longer use the word LGBT as anything to do with me. It isn't. I haven't been happy with it for a while, but when I saw the plan for grooming the public into having paedophilia forced on them as a lovely inclusive idea and saw P had appeared in the LGBAlphabetSoup that was it.

It's a political label now, not a reference to a general section of the community, and I want nothing to do with it. It revolts me.

VAT is a tax on luxury items, to help curb inflation. It would be possible for the EU to list sanitary protection in a different category, so it is not liable for VAT.

From 2015;
''George Osborne has refused to slash the much-debated "tampon tax" in his Autumn Statement, saying that the £15m raised from VAT placed on sanitary products each year will be ploughed into women's charities, including domestic abuse refuges.''
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/autumn-statement-george-osborne-says-tampon-tax-will-fund-womens-charities-a6748241.html

Archived link;
archive.is/5VgD0

It''s very strictly illegal under EU law to exempt anything from VAT because the EU want their grubby mitts on it, they get a fixed % of VAT receipts. Tbf that has already been changed and in the future it will be possible for each EU country to set the tax even at 0%

This is so outrageous I don't even know where to begin

The tampon tax will be used for the benefit of people who don't need sanitary protection, because they don't have female organs.
How is that fair?

Whatever you think of Mermaids or Gendered Intelligence, they are open about their agenda

"Despite its influence, it is worth noting what Mermaids is not. It is not a research body. Its activities are support (for families) and advocacy: based on its contacts with those families, it argues for what it sees are better policies and practices by the NHS and others. It does not carry out or commission clinical or academic research. Its most recent annual report lists among its charitable activities “campaigning and advocacy” and says: “Mermaids has also become more active in lobbying”.

blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/05/why-are-some-mps-trying-to-shut-down-the-transgender-debate/

A little dated, but some good FOI data here.

Just to clarify what I suspect may be a misunderstanding- it's not just tampons that are taxed. All disposable sanitary protection is. So towels, tampons and panty liners. I'm not sure about menstrual cups (my favourite). The name is hides the true story a little bit!

Bang out of order
Glad I don't use tampons I hate them.
If you can, try CSP or other reusable sanitary protection.
Tampons are full of chemicals and an element of their existence is pandering to the idea that our menstrual blood is dirty and smells once it is outside the body i.e. protecting men from the horror of acknowledging menstrual blood

Good on them for raising awareness

When i go to lgbt+ things at work it is all about trans, gay men / lesbians and bisexual people hardly get a mention.

In a place near where I work soon there is an event where the boxing promoter (maloney?) is going to be speaking to discuss being a woman in a male dominated industry. I was [FFS].

That's interesting to hear from the front lines, LazyMondayMornings, though depressing.

It is outrageous, because when the average person hears "LGBTQ" s/he assumes that the funding is shared equally.

It's relevant to consider population estimates: 0.7% of women are lesbian, 0.5% are bisexual. Therefore 0.6% of the population are lesbian/bi women.
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q_Fgszba3tS8fpoYxHcvJQO2VEcXpQP7v6ds0-PEFrQ/edit#gid=2

In comparison, 0.26% are trans in the sense of having undergone or contemplating medical transition.
fairplayforwomen.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Monitoring-Gender-Nonconformity.pdf

So to achieve parity in funding per person, you'd need to spend about twice as much on lesbian/bi women as on trans people.

Wow, LazyMonday.

This raises what I think is one of the key successes of transactivism. Huge sums of money are going to the tragender movement through LGBTQ charities--not just Stonewall but lots of local ones with lower profiles. It comes from our taxes, funnelled through NHS, schools, and local government, plus charity donations like BBC Children in Need. Then of course many private and public organizations pay these LGBTQ charities for diversity training, which is another source of funding.

Yes, I know someone who is still working for an LGBT organisation (although becoming increasingly disillusioned). She told me that funding is being massively diverted from the work with lesbian/bi women (which of course now includes men anyway....) to the trans projects. The women's support groups etc are all now run by volunteers from the universities - young, inexperienced students who are heavily indoctrinated in transactivist ideology - so it's a triple whammy for any women needing the service - the funding has been cut, the women's groups now include males and the volunteers running them aren't just inexperienced but actively promoting an agenda which disadvantages them.

I stopped any involvement with formal LGBT organisations some time ago due to the transactivist bollocks but, towards the end of my involvement, I noticed a few events for lesbian/bi women (e.g. one-off workshops for International Women's Day) which were run by trans groups - not necessarily on trans issues but on stuff like 'empowering women', 'being a strong woman', 'being a creative woman' or whatever and these transwomen/trans-identified males would come in to 'educate' us.

Thinking back, I think this was probably another way to divert funding - Presumably they were being paid to run these sessions so the money would be recorded as being spent on support/projects for lesbian and bi women (possibly from a grant which had to be spent on that specific group) but the money would end up in the hands of transactivist groups.

I wish they would use the money to supply free products to girls in the UK who can't afford them and to girls abroad who live in a way were they don't only miss out on education but could for as a result of having a period (and the treatment of girls when they do/insanitary conditions

It''s very strictly illegal under EU law to exempt anything from VAT because the EU want their grubby mitts on it, they get a fixed % of VAT receipts.

In most EU countries VAT is charged on EVERYTHING, including the most basic foodstuffs.

This raises what I think is one of the key successes of transactivism. Huge sums of money are going to the tragender movement through LGBTQ charities--not just Stonewall but lots of local ones with lower profiles. It comes from our taxes, funnelled through NHS, schools, and local government, plus charity donations like BBC Children in Need. Then of course many private and public organizations pay these LGBTQ charities for diversity training, which is another source of funding.

Whatever you think of Mermaids or Gendered Intelligence, they are open about their agenda. The LGBTQ organizations push the same agenda but covertly.

To give another Manchester example, the LGBT Foundation supports Morf which provides free breast binders to girls--and will send them secretly so that the parents don't know.

Or maybe it is...

Until recently it was taxed at full whack though so what was that about

But this tax isn't applied to bog roll etc is it.

The fact that we can't change it without Europe is also an issue, why does the eu think that these products are not staples.