Genderquake

I'll need subtitles for this.

Here we go.

Female socialisation is a reference to the feminine gender as a social system of stereotypes and norms that is coercively imposed on women because we are female in order to subjugate us by and for the benefit of men, and yes, no men experience this, and no, it is not the same as a man trying to be nice. And anyone who has a clue about what it is to be a woman knows that fighting our socialisation - which is actual gender non-conformity btw - is something we get punished for that in many ways under a male supremacist society, and again, this punishment we get for challenging the gender norms imposed on us as women is something no man can experience.

Isn't there your gender identy and then your gender expression and those two things don't have to match up? I remember seeing a infogram somewhere about it....I think that might have been the thing that made me gender critical....it just got waaaay to complicated and label focused.

I actually find it helpful to identify as GNC with my woke genderist friends because otherwise they don't listen because they can't see past the word bigot written all over my forehead. I do actually think I would fall into that category.

Oh ha! Sorry Juzza. I think of all Corbyn fans as female so not so much with the misgendering

Dietcoke: I'm either gender fluid, non binary or gender neutral....Its weird to think i come under the transgender umbrella. No idea about the difference between the three terms.

I'm going to watch this to see if there is anyone I can relate to so I can find out what my own gender identity is now that biological sex is irrelevant and you have to link your personality to the sex (read gender identity) marker on your birth certificate and passport. I think I'm either gender fluid or non-binary, but I don't really know the difference between the two terms. All the definitions that have been given to me so far suggest that every single person I know is a gender fluid person, so it'll be interesting to find out why society isn't just using "they/them" pronouns for everyone.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klinefelter_syndrome

It seems they have Klinefelter syndrome so are XXY which I understand is generally classed as an intersex condition (although happy to be corrected on this as I am no expert).

People with Kiinefelters are male. It is a disorder of sex development but they have male genitalia and potentially can father children.

Love the Daily Mail comment
"As an LGBT champion I think this could potentially be very educative."

And the reply

" "LGBT champion?" You mean they hold competitions now?"

@Jezza12 if that was aimed at me my comment was not "I am gender critical but..." It was "I am gender critical therefore..." Others have made good points about individualistic gender variance that throws others under the bus. I agree with those too. I'm here for the dialogue. How about you?

"some TRAs will get annoyed"

Does Birds Eye advertise on C4?

Asking for a friend.

Off to gulag mr Katz

Thanks Ally I hadn't been able to make any sense out the info earlier, as I hadn't realised the trans identified man was the one who had the chromosome disorder. I heard him say he hadn't ever had a problem as he 'passed' - I think he used that term.

Yes, they definitely used the term 'pass'. From this link:
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5671965/Young-people-cast-fascinating-new-light-sex-gender-debate.html
It seems they have Klinefelter syndrome so are XXY which I understand is generally classed as an intersex condition (although happy to be corrected on this as I am no expert).

Is it possible that this could actually be a good thing? Bringing the debate into the mainstream?

"Dear Ofcom, this ad suggests that genitalia is a thing people have. Please arrange to have the makers arrested."

Can't view this from where I am, is this one of those situations where TRAs are frothing because they have no sense of humor? As in, is the trailer literally about penises "becoming" vaginas or was it trying to be cute and funny?

Does this link work for you?
www.dailymail.co.uk/video/tvshowbiz/video-1679054/Genderquake-promo-Channel-4-exploring-gender.html
Apologies that it is from the Daily Fail and they will make you sit through an advert first.

I think the advert is trying to be cute, but I also think they might have phrased it like that because if they say 'Men are becoming women' then some TRAs will get annoyed and say 'We always were women'. I don't envy C4 if they are trying to produce programmes about the concept of gender without pissing people on both sides off.

TRA are reporting the Genderquake trailer to Ofcom.

They seem ever so cross

There is no Transphobia on this page, this is TRAphobia!

If I would never wear boxers but it's mostly because I hate the feeling of elastic around my waist what gender is that?

Thanks Ally I hadn't been able to make any sense out the info earlier, as I hadn't realised the trans identified man was the one who had the chromosome disorder. I heard him say he hadn't ever had a problem as he 'passed' - I think he used that term.

So yes, you are right, non binary can meand nothing other than "Today I shall wear knickers, tomorrow maybe boxers"