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Terfragette69 · 06/05/2018 20:59

Are we ready for this?? I'm already angry....... Just from the trailer.

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ChoccyJules · 08/05/2018 21:58

Blimey that Marcus is all about Marcus eh? Clearly always got what they wanted.

Italiangreyhound · 08/05/2018 21:57

@cistersofterfy "What about Brooke? Has quite openly said she'd snog a guy without telling them but wouldn't sleep with someone until she'd told them. Why aren't you all piling on her?"

To be honest I would not be comfortable with her stance either. However, she was describing a guy falling on her in a bar and snogging her. Not the same as developing a relationship on camera with a woman you know would be uncomfortable with the reality of the situation.

cistersofterfy · 08/05/2018 21:56

And I meant to add - did snog someone without saying.

Italiangreyhound · 08/05/2018 21:53

Sorry, I meant ... why did he feel it was OK to start to get involved with her on camera and not tell her?

Terfragette69 · 08/05/2018 21:53

That debate after is going to be messy!!

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Italiangreyhound · 08/05/2018 21:52

@2rebecca "I think Romario is gaslighting..." I agree. He obviously has a complicated and difficult back story. But he was not just chatting up a girl in his local town, he came on national TV and openly romanced her knowing she would not be comfortable with this.

If this was a trans woman doing this to a man people would be up in arms, to me it is no different in moral terms. Although obviously the physical height and size thing makes Romario not a threat. But emotionally I expect Filomena was getting attached. It's playing with other people's emotions.

cistersofterfy · 08/05/2018 21:51

What about Brooke? Has quite openly said she'd snog a guy without telling them but wouldn't sleep with someone until she'd told them. Why aren't you all piling on her?

Terfragette69 · 08/05/2018 21:51

greystripedteepee

No one in particular. I was musing, I feel very empathetic towards the young people, but even with that empathy I can't bring myself to accept a transwoman as a woman like I am, a biological woman.

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greystripedteepee · 08/05/2018 21:48

@Italiangreyhound
That's a good point.
However, 2 wrongs don't make a right. He doesn't want to accept he is trans and that is his baggage.

clumsyduck · 08/05/2018 21:48

It's hurts my head .

I did feel sorry for the guy who got "outed" though it was up to him to share that I think

The non binary thing though I mean to me it seems like playing a part to show that your non binary , just be you . Iv been described as a " Tomboy " my whole life . whatever, I'm a woman , end of , I can like "boy" things and il still be a woman because there is no such thing as "boy" things

Italiangreyhound · 08/05/2018 21:47

@greystripedteepee but Ramerio was not respecting Filomena, why did he feel it was OK to start to get involved with her and not tell her on camera?

cistersofterfy · 08/05/2018 21:47

What a birthday!!!!

2rebecca · 08/05/2018 21:46

Because the whole premise of that house is that everyone has a take on gender and Romario was being deceptive. If he hadn't been trying to hit on a woman who said she was straight and wanted a straight bloke but was hitting on one of the transgender folk Marcus may have left it. I think Romario is gaslighting by making his deception Marcus's problem. Romario seems unable to accept his trans status and wants to magic it all away.

MrsWooster · 08/05/2018 21:46

Jesus. How can anyone dare claim that trans is a physiological and not a psychological thing.

cistersofterfy · 08/05/2018 21:46

What is this now? Break Romario down to then build them back up again....?!!!

Heavy.

Italiangreyhound · 08/05/2018 21:46

Very sad bit with the mum.

greystripedteepee · 08/05/2018 21:43

@Terfragette69 who was your most recent post aimed at? Sorry if I have missed something

Terfragette69 · 08/05/2018 21:37

This is my line in the sand... You can be whatever you like, identify as whatever you like... But do not say we are the same as we are not. That's my sticking point and I'll never get past that.

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greystripedteepee · 08/05/2018 21:35

Why doesn't Marcus get it. It's not any different to any other situation where a person has some private information. If I was pregnant and my colleague guessed then I wouldn't be impressed if they blabbed it all over Facebook. It's nothing to do with being trans and everything to do with respect and maturity.

SayNoToCarrots · 08/05/2018 21:32

That was an interesting apology Marcus.

MrsWooster · 08/05/2018 21:31

Phoenix wavy dancer? Male, biologically.

Italiangreyhound · 08/05/2018 21:31

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greystripedteepee · 08/05/2018 21:30

So what is Phoenix biologically?

2rebecca · 08/05/2018 21:28

Doesn't Charlie have a job and money of Charlie's own? Do any of them have jobs? They seem like overgrown teenagers.

Terfragette69 · 08/05/2018 21:25

Brook had it really hard, in fact most of them. That isn't acceptable. I wish they could see we, as gender critical feminists aren't bullying, we're defending our rights.

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